[gentoo-amd64] Skype doesn't work as user

[gentoo-amd64] Skype doesn't work as user

[Luigi Pinna]

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Hello!
I tried to use skype but it doesn't work
If I use it as root I read it from console:
skype
No running artsd or esd found
Starting skype without sound daemon
==========================================
and it works.
If I use my user (root is only in a root console, no root session), I 
read:
skype
Running artsd found
Starting artsd wrapped skype
==========================================
Running wrapped Skype failed, trying not-wrapped mode...
==========================================
and the program doesn't work!

What must I do?
Thanks a lot,
Luigi
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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Skype doesn't work as user

[Duncan]

Luigi Pinna posted <200511191923.28403.mailing-gentoo@sailorferris.com>,
excerpted below,  on Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:23:24 +0100:

> I tried to use skype but it doesn't work
> If I use it as root I read it from console:
> skype
> No running artsd or esd found
> Starting skype without sound daemon
> ==========================================
> and it works.
> If I use my user (root is only in a root console, no root session), I 
> read:
> skype
> Running artsd found
> Starting artsd wrapped skype
> ==========================================
> Running wrapped Skype failed, trying not-wrapped mode...
> ==========================================
> and the program doesn't work!

What desktop are you running, KDE?  If so, are you using the ARTS sound
daemon or not?  Anything else (KDE's sound effects??) accessing sound at
the same time?  What are the ownership and permissions on your sound
device (/dev/sound/dsp and/or /dev/snd/pcm)?

As a user, Skype seems to be configured to try playing thru ARTS first. 
When that fails, it tries playing direct to the sound device.  The thing
is that if ARTS or a similar sound daemon (ESD?) is running, it'll grab
exclusive use of the sound device, and nothing else will be able to use
it, even if it would be capable of sharing it otherwise.    That's why it
tries thru ARTS -- if it's running it can't access the hardware directly
anyway.

The problem could also be one of permissions, if your user isn't in the
audio group, or the devices have non-standard permissions or ownership. 
(It could also be PAM and console permissions, if they are activated, but
Gentoo doesn't activate PAM's console.perms by default any more, due to
the frustration and bugs it tended to raise when things didn't work as
expected, and because there were than actually three places to check
permissions, devfs/UDEV, the devices themselves, and PAM.  Without PAM,
there's only two.)

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Skype doesn't work as user

[Barry.SCHWARTZ]

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Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> skribis:
> The problem could also be one of permissions, if your user isn't in
> the audio group, or the devices have non-standard permissions or
> ownership.

That reminds me of something.

A long time ago, I put the following in a
file/etc/udev/rules.d/30-local.rules after a udev upgrade broke my
sound:

# alsa devices
KERNEL="controlC0",                     NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL="pcmC0D0c",                      NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL="pcmC0D0p",                      NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL="pcmC0D1c",                      NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL="pcmC0D1p",                      NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL="seq",                           NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL="timer",                         NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"

The person having trouble could try that. Another thing to try is
'killall artsd' and then see what happens.

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Skype doesn't work as user

[Duncan]

Barry.SCHWARTZ posted <20051120105459.GA17881@crud.crud.mn.org>, excerpted
below,  on Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:54:59 -0600:

> Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> skribis:
>> The problem could also be one of permissions, if your user isn't in
>> the audio group, or the devices have non-standard permissions or
>> ownership.
> 
> That reminds me of something.
> 
> A long time ago, I put the following in a
> file/etc/udev/rules.d/30-local.rules after a udev upgrade broke my
> sound:
> 
> # alsa devices
> KERNEL="controlC0",                     NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
> KERNEL="pcmC0D0c",                      NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
> KERNEL="pcmC0D0p",                      NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
> KERNEL="pcmC0D1c",                      NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
> KERNEL="pcmC0D1p",                      NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
> KERNEL="seq",                           NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"
> KERNEL="timer",                         NAME="snd/%k", SYMLINK="%k", GROUP="audio"

Hmm...

grep -B2 snd /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules
# alsa devices
SUBSYSTEM=="sound", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="controlC[0-9]*",       NAME="snd/%k"
KERNEL=="hw[CD0-9]*",           NAME="snd/%k"
KERNEL=="pcm[CD0-9cp]*",        NAME="snd/%k"
KERNEL=="midiC[D0-9]*",         NAME="snd/%k"
KERNEL=="timer",                NAME="snd/%k"
KERNEL=="seq",                  NAME="snd/%k"


So... basically what you did is add the main /dev dir symlinks... 
Interesting...

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Skype doesn't work as user

[Luigi Pinna]

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Alle 11:37, domenica 20 novembre 2005, Duncan ha scritto:
> What desktop are you running, KDE?  If so, are you using the ARTS
> sound daemon or not?  Anything else (KDE's sound effects??) accessing
> sound at the same time?  What are the ownership and permissions on
> your sound device (/dev/sound/dsp and/or /dev/snd/pcm)?

Yes KDE 3.4.3 with arts, and it works good (I can use juk, kopete 
without problems)

> As a user, Skype seems to be configured to try playing thru ARTS
> first. When that fails, it tries playing direct to the sound device. 
> The thing is that if ARTS or a similar sound daemon (ESD?) is
> running, it'll grab exclusive use of the sound device, and nothing
> else will be able to use it, even if it would be capable of sharing
> it otherwise.    That's why it tries thru ARTS -- if it's running it
> can't access the hardware directly anyway.

Ok, but why root can access to the device too? It must be kill user's 
arts, isn't it?
The problem is that I don't know how to configure it, and I don't want 
to use a root access to use Skype...
Luigi

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Skype doesn't work as user

[Luigi Pinna]

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Alle 21:00, domenica 20 novembre 2005, John Myers ha scritto:
> On Saturday 19 November 2005 10:23, Luigi Pinna wrote:
> > Hello!
> > I tried to use skype but it doesn't work
>
> What do you mean by "doesn't work", exactly? No sound? No Skype
> windows?

Simple, the program doesn't start.
Luigi
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Skype doesn't work as user

[John Myers]

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On Saturday 19 November 2005 10:23, Luigi Pinna wrote:
> Hello!
> I tried to use skype but it doesn't work
What do you mean by "doesn't work", exactly? No sound? No Skype windows?

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Skype doesn't work as user

[Luigi Pinna]

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Alle 21:36, domenica 20 novembre 2005, Joerg Gollnick ha scritto:
> Hello Luigi,
> give /opt/skype/skype.bin a try.
> It worked for me.
> But it needs a couple of second to start skype.
> Best regards Joerg

I have this error:
$ /opt/skype/skype.bin
/opt/skype/skype.bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
directory

if I do:
$ locate libqt-mt.so.3
/emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
/emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
/opt/netscape/plugins/lib32/libqt-mt.so.3
/usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
/usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3.3
/usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
and:
$ ll /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3*
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      15 21 set 
02:54 /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      17 21 set 
02:54 /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 8608432 21 set 
02:54 /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
$ ll /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3*
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      17 22 ago 
18:27 /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 7221480 22 ago 
18:27 /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4

I don't understand...
Luigi
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Skype doesn't work as user

[Joerg Gollnick]

Am Samstag 19 November 2005 19:23 schrieb Luigi Pinna:
> Hello!
> I tried to use skype but it doesn't work
> If I use it as root I read it from console:
> skype
> No running artsd or esd found
> Starting skype without sound daemon
> ==========================================
> and it works.
> If I use my user (root is only in a root console, no root session), I 
> read:
> skype
> Running artsd found
> Starting artsd wrapped skype
> ==========================================
> Running wrapped Skype failed, trying not-wrapped mode...
> ==========================================
> and the program doesn't work!
> 
> What must I do?
> Thanks a lot,
> Luigi
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> 
Hello Luigi,
give /opt/skype/skype.bin a try. 
It worked for me. 
But it needs a couple of second to start skype.
Best regards Joerg
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Skype doesn't work as user[SOLVED]

[Luigi Pinna]

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Alle 22:03, domenica 20 novembre 2005, Joerg Gollnick ha scritto:
> Hello Luigi,
> I have no /opt/netscape/plugins/lib32/libqt-mt.so.3.
> May be your  link /opt/netscape/plugins/lib32/libqt-mt.so.3 is dead.
>
> For comparision I made a
> ldd /opt/skype/skype.bin

I found the problem!
My ldd gives:

$ ldd /opt/skype/skype.bin
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libqt-mt.so.3 => not found
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        libXext.so.6 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXext.so.6 
(0x5559c000)
        libX11.so.6 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x555aa000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0x55674000)
        libstdc++.so.5 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 
(0x556c6000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0x5577a000)
        libgcc_s.so.1 
=> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x5579d000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0x557a6000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0x558bf000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x55555000)

I checked all the libqt-mt.so.3 and some of them had no read and execute 
permissions. I changed all (I don't now about the security of this 
system), and now the comand skype works too!
Thanks a lot,
Luigi
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Skype doesn't work as user

[Joerg Gollnick]

Am Sonntag 20 November 2005 21:24 schrieb Luigi Pinna:
> Alle 21:36, domenica 20 novembre 2005, Joerg Gollnick ha scritto:
> > Hello Luigi,
> > give /opt/skype/skype.bin a try.
> > It worked for me.
> > But it needs a couple of second to start skype.
> > Best regards Joerg
> 
> I have this error:
> $ /opt/skype/skype.bin
> /opt/skype/skype.bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
> libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
> directory
> 
> if I do:
> $ locate libqt-mt.so.3
> /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
> /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> /opt/netscape/plugins/lib32/libqt-mt.so.3
> /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
> /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3.3
> /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
> and:
> $ ll /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3*
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      15 21 set 
> 02:54 /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      17 21 set 
> 02:54 /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 8608432 21 set 
> 02:54 /usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
> $ ll /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3*
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      17 22 ago 
> 18:27 /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 7221480 22 ago 
> 18:27 /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
> 
> I don't understand...
> Luigi
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> 
Hello Luigi,
I have no /opt/netscape/plugins/lib32/libqt-mt.so.3.
May be your  link /opt/netscape/plugins/lib32/libqt-mt.so.3 is dead.

For comparision I made a 
ldd /opt/skype/skype.bin

/opt/skype/skype.bin: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/32/libstdc++.so.5: 
no version information available (required by /opt/skype/skype.bin)
/opt/skype/skype.bin: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/32/libstdc++.so.5: 
no version information available (required by /opt/skype/skype.bin)
/opt/skype/skype.bin: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/32/libstdc++.so.5: 
no version information available (required 
by /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3)
/opt/skype/skype.bin: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/32/libstdc++.so.5: 
no version information available (required 
by /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3)
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libqt-mt.so.3 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 
(0x55599000)
        libXext.so.6 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x55c77000)
        libX11.so.6 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x55c85000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0x55d4f000)
        libstdc++.so.5 
=> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/32/libstdc++.so.5 (0x55da1000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0x55e61000)
        libgcc_s.so.1 
=> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x55e85000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0x55e8e000)
        libmng.so.1 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libmng.so.1 (0x55fa6000)
        libjpeg.so.62 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x56003000)
        libpng.so.3 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x56021000)
        libz.so.1 => /emul/linux/x86/lib/libz.so.1 (0x56051000)
        libXi.so.6 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x56063000)
        libXrender.so.1 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 
(0x5606b000)
        libXrandr.so.2 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x56073000)
        libXcursor.so.1 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 
(0x56076000)
        libXinerama.so.1 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 
(0x5607f000)
        libXft.so.2 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x56083000)
        libfreetype.so.6 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 
(0x56095000)
        libfontconfig.so.1 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 
(0x56104000)
        libSM.so.6 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x5612b000)
        libICE.so.6 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x56134000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0x5614c000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x55555000)
        liblcms.so.1 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 (0x56151000)
        libexpat.so.0 => /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x5617e000)


Best regards Joerg
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