[gentoo-amd64] Nvidia problem

[gentoo-amd64] Nvidia problem

[Mark]

I think I've done my due diligence on this prior to asking, and have
found several posting in the forums on the issue, but the suggestions
haven't worked so far.

After emerge nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx, which completes without
error, I try modprobe nvidia. It fails with the following:

FATAL: Error inserting nvidia
(/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/video/nvidia.ko): No such device

I've tried all the suggestions I could find, including checking for
framebuffer settings in the kernel, making sure my processor is
specified correctly in the kernel, etc. I even tried the unstable
driver version by putting the lines in package.keywords.

Any idea what could be wrong?
Thanks!
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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Sebastian Zaffarano]

try disabling the nvidia-fb option in the kernel.  I had the same
problem, and I think it's because there's any conflict betwen frame
buffer and nvidia drivers :(

any ideas?

I was the problem with gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r6 and
morph-sources-2.6.12-r6 and the solution was disable nvidia-fb

Sebastian

On 7/26/05, Mark <whitetr6@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I've done my due diligence on this prior to asking, and have
> found several posting in the forums on the issue, but the suggestions
> haven't worked so far.
> 
> After emerge nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx, which completes without
> error, I try modprobe nvidia. It fails with the following:
> 
> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia
> (/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/video/nvidia.ko): No such device
> 
> I've tried all the suggestions I could find, including checking for
> framebuffer settings in the kernel, making sure my processor is
> specified correctly in the kernel, etc. I even tried the unstable
> driver version by putting the lines in package.keywords.
> 
> Any idea what could be wrong?
> Thanks!
> -- 
> Mark
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> 
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Mark]

Thanks Sebastian, but I don't have that enabled. In fact, it looks
like I don't have any framebuffer support enabled at all.

I was wondering, could it be that the current driver has probelms and
maybe I should try an older version? If that's a possibility, how do I
install an older driver?

On 7/26/05, Sebastian Zaffarano <hermetica@gmail.com> wrote:
> try disabling the nvidia-fb option in the kernel.  I had the same
> problem, and I think it's because there's any conflict betwen frame
> buffer and nvidia drivers :(
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> I was the problem with gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r6 and
> morph-sources-2.6.12-r6 and the solution was disable nvidia-fb
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> On 7/26/05, Mark <whitetr6@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think I've done my due diligence on this prior to asking, and have
> > found several posting in the forums on the issue, but the suggestions
> > haven't worked so far.
> >
> > After emerge nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx, which completes without
> > error, I try modprobe nvidia. It fails with the following:
> >
> > FATAL: Error inserting nvidia
> > (/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/video/nvidia.ko): No such device
> >
> > I've tried all the suggestions I could find, including checking for
> > framebuffer settings in the kernel, making sure my processor is
> > specified correctly in the kernel, etc. I even tried the unstable
> > driver version by putting the lines in package.keywords.
> >
> > Any idea what could be wrong?
> > Thanks!
> > --
> > Mark
> > [unwieldy legal disclaimer would go here - feel free to type your own]
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
> 
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Sebastian Zaffarano]

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what kernel version are you using Mark?

for install an older driver:

emerge -av "=nvidia-kernel-VERSION" or emerge -av "<=nvidia-kernel-VERSION"

I'm using media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7667 with
gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r6(without fb) and run ok
(do you build nvidia-kernel AFTER you recompile you new kernel?)

Sebastian

On 7/26/05, Mark <whitetr6@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Sebastian, but I don't have that enabled. In fact, it looks
> like I don't have any framebuffer support enabled at all.
> 
> I was wondering, could it be that the current driver has probelms and
> maybe I should try an older version? If that's a possibility, how do I
> install an older driver?
> 
> On 7/26/05, Sebastian Zaffarano <hermetica@gmail.com> wrote:
> > try disabling the nvidia-fb option in the kernel. I had the same
> > problem, and I think it's because there's any conflict betwen frame
> > buffer and nvidia drivers :(
> >
> > any ideas?
> >
> > I was the problem with gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r6 and
> > morph-sources-2.6.12-r6 and the solution was disable nvidia-fb
> >
> > Sebastian
> >
> > On 7/26/05, Mark <whitetr6@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think I've done my due diligence on this prior to asking, and have
> > > found several posting in the forums on the issue, but the suggestions
> > > haven't worked so far.
> > >
> > > After emerge nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx, which completes without
> > > error, I try modprobe nvidia. It fails with the following:
> > >
> > > FATAL: Error inserting nvidia
> > > (/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/video/nvidia.ko): No such device
> > >
> > > I've tried all the suggestions I could find, including checking for
> > > framebuffer settings in the kernel, making sure my processor is
> > > specified correctly in the kernel, etc. I even tried the unstable
> > > driver version by putting the lines in package.keywords.
> > >
> > > Any idea what could be wrong?
> > > Thanks!
> > > --
> > > Mark
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> > >
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> > >
> >
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> >
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> 
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Mark]

I also have 2.6.12-r6, and am building nvidia after the kernel. I have
kde packages installing right now, so I'll try a different version
tomorrow. Interesting though...I just did emerge -p nvidia-kernel and
it said the version that would be installed is
nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4. How did you end up with version 1.0.7667?

On 7/26/05, Sebastian Zaffarano <hermetica@gmail.com> wrote:
> what kernel version are you using Mark?
>  
>  for install an older driver:
>  
>  emerge -av "=nvidia-kernel-VERSION" or emerge -av "<=nvidia-kernel-VERSION"
>  
>  I'm using media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7667 with gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r6
> (without fb) and run ok
>  (do you build nvidia-kernel AFTER you recompile you new kernel?)
>  
>  Sebastian
> 
> 
> On 7/26/05, Mark <whitetr6@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks Sebastian, but I don't have that enabled. In fact, it looks
> > like I don't have any framebuffer support enabled at all.
> > 
> > I was wondering, could it be that the current driver has probelms and
> > maybe I should try an older version? If that's a possibility, how do I 
> > install an older driver?
> > 
> > On 7/26/05, Sebastian Zaffarano <hermetica@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > try disabling the nvidia-fb option in the kernel.  I had the same
> > > problem, and I think it's because there's any conflict betwen frame
> > > buffer and nvidia drivers :(
> > >
> > > any ideas?
> > >
> > > I was the problem with gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r6 and
> > > morph-sources-2.6.12-r6 and the solution was disable nvidia-fb
> > >
> > > Sebastian
> > >
> > > On 7/26/05, Mark <whitetr6@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I think I've done my due diligence on this prior to asking, and have 
> > > > found several posting in the forums on the issue, but the suggestions
> > > > haven't worked so far.
> > > >
> > > > After emerge nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx, which completes without
> > > > error, I try modprobe nvidia. It fails with the following: 
> > > >
> > > > FATAL: Error inserting nvidia
> > > > (/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/video/nvidia.ko): No
> such device
> > > >
> > > > I've tried all the suggestions I could find, including checking for 
> > > > framebuffer settings in the kernel, making sure my processor is
> > > > specified correctly in the kernel, etc. I even tried the unstable
> > > > driver version by putting the lines in package.keywords .
> > > >
> > > > Any idea what could be wrong?
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > --
> > > > Mark
> > > > [unwieldy legal disclaimer would go here - feel free to type your own]
> > > >
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> > 
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> > 
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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Nvidia problem

[Duncan]

Mark posted <1f81f7e005072620491fc2adf4@mail.gmail.com>, excerpted below, 
on Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:49:33 -0400:

> I also have 2.6.12-r6, and am building nvidia after the kernel. I have kde
> packages installing right now, so I'll try a different version tomorrow.
> Interesting though...I just did emerge -p nvidia-kernel and it said the
> version that would be installed is nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4. How did you
> end up with version 1.0.7667?

Not specifically familiar with the package (I have a thing about closed
source kernel modules, I won't run them, or why did I bother switching
from closed source MS after a decade of using it, to open source Linux... 
I choose to run a Radeon using the free xorg drivers), but possibly he's
running ~arch and you are running stable arch? There are also occasionally
newer packages still hard masked, available for anyone willing to risk the
stability of their system enough to unmask them, possibly keyword them
locally, and merge them.

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Nvidia problem

[Duncan]

Sebastian Zaffarano posted <cee5907105072620384897f074@mail.gmail.com>,
excerpted below,  on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:38:49 -0300:

> I'm using media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7667 with
> gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r6(without fb) and run ok (do you build
> nvidia-kernel AFTER you recompile you new kernel?)

It should go without saying, but if merging against a new kernel,
rebooting into the new kernel before emerging the NVidia driver could be
rather helpful.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Nvidia problem

[Ian McCulloch]

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Duncan wrote:

> Sebastian Zaffarano posted <cee5907105072620384897f074@mail.gmail.com>,
> excerpted below,  on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:38:49 -0300:
> 
> > I'm using media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7667 with
> > gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r6(without fb) and run ok (do you build
> > nvidia-kernel AFTER you recompile you new kernel?)
> 
> It should go without saying, but if merging against a new kernel,
> rebooting into the new kernel before emerging the NVidia driver could be
> rather helpful.

Why?
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Nvidia problem

[Joerg Gollnick]

Am Mittwoch 27 Juli 2005 04:28 schrieb Mark:
> I think I've done my due diligence on this prior to asking, and have
> found several posting in the forums on the issue, but the suggestions
> haven't worked so far.
> 
> After emerge nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx, which completes without
> error, I try modprobe nvidia. It fails with the following:
> 
> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia
> (/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/video/nvidia.ko): No such device
> 
> I've tried all the suggestions I could find, including checking for
> framebuffer settings in the kernel, making sure my processor is
> specified correctly in the kernel, etc. I even tried the unstable
> driver version by putting the lines in package.keywords.
> 
> Any idea what could be wrong?
> Thanks!
> -- 
> Mark
> [unwieldy legal disclaimer would go here - feel free to type your own]
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
Hello Mark, 
what is the dmesg output after you try to load the module?
Your error message seem to be related to an initialisation error for your 
nvidia card. (nv.c return -ENODEV)
What is the output of lspci | grep nVidia?
Best reagrds Jörg

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar]

Seems that you updated your kernel. You should re-emerge nvidia-kernel with 
new kernel version to make nvidia work. Yesterday, I got same problem, but 
after re-emerging it works fine. I don't know why.
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Nvidia problem

[Michal Žeravík]

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Anyone got work X transparency (composite)
with xcompmgr working with 2.6.12 and nvidia drivers?
For me it is not working even with generic nv driver.

Michal


Joerg Gollnick wrote:

>Am Mittwoch 27 Juli 2005 04:28 schrieb Mark:
>  
>
>>I think I've done my due diligence on this prior to asking, and have
>>found several posting in the forums on the issue, but the suggestions
>>haven't worked so far.
>>
>>After emerge nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx, which completes without
>>error, I try modprobe nvidia. It fails with the following:
>>
>>FATAL: Error inserting nvidia
>>(/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/video/nvidia.ko): No such device
>>
>>I've tried all the suggestions I could find, including checking for
>>framebuffer settings in the kernel, making sure my processor is
>>specified correctly in the kernel, etc. I even tried the unstable
>>driver version by putting the lines in package.keywords.
>>
>>Any idea what could be wrong?
>>Thanks!
>>-- 
>>Mark
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>>
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>>
>>
>>    
>>
>Hello Mark, 
>what is the dmesg output after you try to load the module?
>Your error message seem to be related to an initialisation error for your 
>nvidia card. (nv.c return -ENODEV)
>What is the output of lspci | grep nVidia?
>Best reagrds Jörg
>
>  
>


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Nvidia problem

[Jeremy Huddleston]

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> what is the dmesg output after you try to load the module?
> Your error message seem to be related to an initialisation error for your 
> nvidia card. (nv.c return -ENODEV)
> What is the output of lspci | grep nVidia?
> Best reagrds Jörg

If dmesg says that your card isn't supported, then you have a "legacy"
card which means nVidia isn't realeasing support for it any more in the
standard drivers... Throw this in to /etc/portage/package.mask:
>=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664
>=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.7664

7664 will stay in the tree atleast until nVidia releases updated drivers
for those legacy cards.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Nvidia problem

[Michael Edwards]

Am Mittwoch, den 27.07.2005, 09:06 +0200 schrieb Michal Žeravík:
> Anyone got work X transparency (composite)
> with xcompmgr working with 2.6.12 and nvidia drivers?
> For me it is not working even with generic nv driver.
> 
> Michal
> 
It works here with the Compositor from xfce4(cvs) but it's very
unstable, so I turned it of.
I think there are still a few problems with the NVidia Driver.

Michael Edwards



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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Duncan]

Michal Zeravik posted <42E7328A.9030002@olomouc.com>, excerpted below, 
on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:06:50 +0200:

> Anyone got work X transparency (composite) with xcompmgr working with
> 2.6.12 and nvidia drivers? For me it is not working even with generic nv
> driver.

I don't do unfreedomware, and have an issue with NVidia not providing
even programming interface information to the community, so I refuse to
buy NVidia video.  

However, I got it working with an ATI Radeon 9200 SE and the xorg native
drivers the other day.  It's /nice/ in KDE.  That was running the
xorg-x11-6.8.99.15 6.9/7.0 snapshot build, with unified framebuffer on a
dual 2048x1736 monitor layout.

Composite crashes with Xinerama enabled and dual framebuffers instead of
the single unified framebuffer, thru 6.8.99.13.  The .14 and .15
snapshots won't xinerama correctly even without composite, and I decided I
liked the separate framebuffers with xinerama (I like being able to
switch the resolution on one monitor without having to worry about the
other one as well), so I switched back to .13, without composite, of
course, since it crashes in xinerama mode.

Still, I was able to play with it enough to get a feel for why everybody
is going so crazy over composite, and what it can do.  Once it goes fully
stable, it'll definitely support some really nice eye candy.  It's really
cool when it works.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Mark]

Well, now it works :-)

I don't know what fixed it, but my guess is, as Duncan suggested, I
didn't reboot after recompiling the kernel, and before emerging
nvidia. After that sequence, the module loads fine.

Thank you all very much for the tips and taking the time to help. Best regards

On 7/27/05, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> Michal Zeravik posted <42E7328A.9030002@olomouc.com>, excerpted below,
> on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:06:50 +0200:
> 
> > Anyone got work X transparency (composite) with xcompmgr working with
> > 2.6.12 and nvidia drivers? For me it is not working even with generic nv
> > driver.
> 
> I don't do unfreedomware, and have an issue with NVidia not providing
> even programming interface information to the community, so I refuse to
> buy NVidia video.
> 
> However, I got it working with an ATI Radeon 9200 SE and the xorg native
> drivers the other day.  It's /nice/ in KDE.  That was running the
> xorg-x11-6.8.99.15 6.9/7.0 snapshot build, with unified framebuffer on a
> dual 2048x1736 monitor layout.
> 
> Composite crashes with Xinerama enabled and dual framebuffers instead of
> the single unified framebuffer, thru 6.8.99.13.  The .14 and .15
> snapshots won't xinerama correctly even without composite, and I decided I
> liked the separate framebuffers with xinerama (I like being able to
> switch the resolution on one monitor without having to worry about the
> other one as well), so I switched back to .13, without composite, of
> course, since it crashes in xinerama mode.
> 
> Still, I was able to play with it enough to get a feel for why everybody
> is going so crazy over composite, and what it can do.  Once it goes fully
> stable, it'll definitely support some really nice eye candy.  It's really
> cool when it works.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Michal Žeravík]

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Well,
I have pcie geforce6600 board primary
and pci riva tnt2 as secondary with xinerama,
drivers
=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664
=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.7664

Primary card is controlled by nvidia module, secondary with nv driver.
A shame, composite crashes after run xcompmgr.
I have modified xorg.conf (v6.8.2-r2) following steps on gentoo-wiki.org.

So the problem is in xorg xinerama code?

Michal



Mark wrote:

>Well, now it works :-)
>
>I don't know what fixed it, but my guess is, as Duncan suggested, I
>didn't reboot after recompiling the kernel, and before emerging
>nvidia. After that sequence, the module loads fine.
>
>Thank you all very much for the tips and taking the time to help. Best regards
>
>On 7/27/05, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
>  
>
>>Michal Zeravik posted <42E7328A.9030002@olomouc.com>, excerpted below,
>>on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:06:50 +0200:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Anyone got work X transparency (composite) with xcompmgr working with
>>>2.6.12 and nvidia drivers? For me it is not working even with generic nv
>>>driver.
>>>      
>>>
>>I don't do unfreedomware, and have an issue with NVidia not providing
>>even programming interface information to the community, so I refuse to
>>buy NVidia video.
>>
>>However, I got it working with an ATI Radeon 9200 SE and the xorg native
>>drivers the other day.  It's /nice/ in KDE.  That was running the
>>xorg-x11-6.8.99.15 6.9/7.0 snapshot build, with unified framebuffer on a
>>dual 2048x1736 monitor layout.
>>
>>Composite crashes with Xinerama enabled and dual framebuffers instead of
>>the single unified framebuffer, thru 6.8.99.13.  The .14 and .15
>>snapshots won't xinerama correctly even without composite, and I decided I
>>liked the separate framebuffers with xinerama (I like being able to
>>switch the resolution on one monitor without having to worry about the
>>other one as well), so I switched back to .13, without composite, of
>>course, since it crashes in xinerama mode.
>>
>>Still, I was able to play with it enough to get a feel for why everybody
>>is going so crazy over composite, and what it can do.  Once it goes fully
>>stable, it'll definitely support some really nice eye candy.  It's really
>>cool when it works.
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Nvidia problem

[Duncan]

Michal Zeravik posted <42E7A2F5.2050604@olomouc.com>, excerpted below, 
on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:06:29 +0200:

> Primary card is controlled by nvidia module, secondary with nv driver. A
> shame, composite crashes after run xcompmgr. I have modified xorg.conf
> (v6.8.2-r2) following steps on gentoo-wiki.org.
> 
> So the problem is in xorg xinerama code?

It would appear so... since even running the same native xorg driver (ati
radeon) on both outputs of the same card, I have issues with composite and
xinerama.  I was only able to get it to work when I ran a single instance
of the driver in merged-framebuffer mode, covering both monitors.  Even
then, it failed at first, because I had forgotten to turn xinerama off,
even tho it had nothing to do because there was only one framebuffer.  It
only worked (and worked well enough to impress me, I might add), once I
turned xinerama off, by commenting the line that turned it on.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Sami Samhuri]

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* On Wed Jul-27-2005 at 02:59:06 AM -0700, Duncan said:
> Michal Zeravik posted <42E7328A.9030002@olomouc.com>, excerpted below, 
> on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:06:50 +0200:
> 
> > Anyone got work X transparency (composite) with xcompmgr working with
> > 2.6.12 and nvidia drivers? For me it is not working even with generic nv
> > driver.
> 
> I don't do unfreedomware, and have an issue with NVidia not providing
> even programming interface information to the community, so I refuse to
> buy NVidia video.  
> 
> However, I got it working with an ATI Radeon 9200 SE and the xorg native
> drivers the other day.  It's /nice/ in KDE.  That was running the
> xorg-x11-6.8.99.15 6.9/7.0 snapshot build, with unified framebuffer on a
> dual 2048x1736 monitor layout.

I thought I would do the same, except after switching to an amd64
machine any attempt to use my Radeon 9200 SE causes a hard lock up as
soon as I type 'startx'. No ssh'ing in from another box, no ctl-alt-bs,
the only way out is a hard reset. For now I'm using 2 GeForces, but I
would rather switch to the ATI. Did yours just work 'out of the box'?

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Nvidia problem

[Duncan]

Sami Samhuri posted <20050727175256.GC15702@no-eff-eks.com>, excerpted
below,  on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:52:56 -0700:

>> However, I got it working with an ATI Radeon 9200 SE and the xorg native
>> drivers the other day.  It's /nice/ in KDE.  That was running the
>> xorg-x11-6.8.99.15 6.9/7.0 snapshot build, with unified framebuffer on a
>> dual 2048x1736 monitor layout.
> 
> I thought I would do the same, except after switching to an amd64 machine
> any attempt to use my Radeon 9200 SE causes a hard lock up as soon as I
> type 'startx'. No ssh'ing in from another box, no ctl-alt-bs, the only way
> out is a hard reset. For now I'm using 2 GeForces, but I would rather
> switch to the ATI. Did yours just work 'out of the box'?

Pretty much, yes.  I had been running an NVidia, then switched to an ATI
7500 (IIRC), then eventually to the 9200 SE.  The switch from NVidia to
the 7500 was a bit rough, as I had to convert my XF86Config from the
format NVidia's proprietary drivers used for their options, to the
equivalent XFree standard format, with a few Radeon driver specific
options.  However, everything was documented in the manpages, and since
then, the upgrades have been trivial, to card, monitors, and xfree/xorg,
all three.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Luke-Jr]

On Wednesday 27 July 2005 06:33, Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote:
> Seems that you updated your kernel. 

Wrong error message. It's 'DEVICE not found', not 'MODULE not found'

> You should re-emerge nvidia-kernel with new kernel version to make nvidia
> work. Yesterday, I got same problem, but after re-emerging it works fine. I
> don't know why. 

Because 'make modules_install' wipes your module dir.
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Luke-Jr]

On Wednesday 27 July 2005 17:52, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> * On Wed Jul-27-2005 at 02:59:06 AM -0700, Duncan said:
> > However, I got it working with an ATI Radeon 9200 SE and the xorg native
> > drivers the other day.  It's /nice/ in KDE.  That was running the
> > xorg-x11-6.8.99.15 6.9/7.0 snapshot build, with unified framebuffer on a
> > dual 2048x1736 monitor layout.
>
> I thought I would do the same, except after switching to an amd64
> machine any attempt to use my Radeon 9200 SE causes a hard lock up as
> soon as I type 'startx'. No ssh'ing in from another box, no ctl-alt-bs,
> the only way out is a hard reset. For now I'm using 2 GeForces, but I
> would rather switch to the ATI. Did yours just work 'out of the box'?

Check your config. My Radeon is rock stable, but if it's initialized and 
deinitialized too quickly (usually a bad X config returning an error), it 
freezes the system. Note that my X config has been good since July 2004ish, 
so the situation may be different now.
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Nvidia problem

[Sami Samhuri]

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* On Wed Jul-27-2005 at 09:42:32 PM +0000, Luke-Jr said:
[...]
> Check your config. My Radeon is rock stable, but if it's initialized and 
> deinitialized too quickly (usually a bad X config returning an error), it 
> freezes the system. Note that my X config has been good since July 2004ish, 
> so the situation may be different now.

Perhaps I did not read enough documentation or did not read it carefully
enough. When I have time I will give it another shot. I can't enable
RenderAccel with 2 NVidia cards without X freezing, which is rediculous.

One detail I forgot to mention is that this is a PCI card. Are you both
using AGP? That could be a factor as well. Google hasn't turned up much
in the way of amd64 related content but maybe I just haven't found the
correct wording yet...

Thanks for the info, Duncan and Luke, at least now I know it *should*
work without too much hassle.

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Nvidia problem

[Duncan]

Sami Samhuri posted <20050728015026.GD15702@no-eff-eks.com>, excerpted
below,  on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:50:26 -0700:

> One detail I forgot to mention is that this is a PCI card. Are you both
> using AGP? That could be a factor as well. Google hasn't turned up much in
> the way of amd64 related content but maybe I just haven't found the
> correct wording yet...

I've run PCI Radeons as well, before, Radeon 7000s.  They worked fine,
for the most part, altho the quality on the ones I had didn't seem the
best.  I currently have both a PCI and an AGP card installed, as I /had/
planned on going dual card, quad monitor, but I've never been able to get
that to work.  I can get either one on its own to work, but not both
together, altho the Radeon drivers are supposedly multi-card xinerama
capable.  It always says there's a conflict in some set of overlapping I/O
zones or some such, and can't straighten it out.  However, as I said,
either one operates just fine on its own.

Hmmm... now that I think about it, I don't remember what models are
currently installed.  Let me try a quick lspci...  

RV 280 for both.  ATI Radeon 9200 SE, and 9200 Pro.  The pro is the PCI
card, the SE is the AGP card.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Nvidia problem

[Sami Samhuri]

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* On Thu Jul-28-2005 at 04:11:54 AM -0700, Duncan said:
> Sami Samhuri posted <20050728015026.GD15702@no-eff-eks.com>, excerpted
> below,  on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:50:26 -0700:
> 
> > One detail I forgot to mention is that this is a PCI card. Are you both
> > using AGP? That could be a factor as well. Google hasn't turned up much in
> > the way of amd64 related content but maybe I just haven't found the
> > correct wording yet...
> 
> I've run PCI Radeons as well, before, Radeon 7000s.  They worked fine,
> for the most part, altho the quality on the ones I had didn't seem the
> best.  I currently have both a PCI and an AGP card installed, as I /had/
> planned on going dual card, quad monitor, but I've never been able to get
> that to work.  I can get either one on its own to work, but not both

That'd be a nice setup!

> RV 280 for both.  ATI Radeon 9200 SE, and 9200 Pro.  The pro is the PCI
> card, the SE is the AGP card.

Well then, there really is no reason why mine shouldn't work! Too bad I
won't have time to mess with this PC until the end of August.

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