Re: [gentoo-amd64] Where is '@system'?

[malc <mlashley@gmail.com>]

cat /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages - and all will be revealed :)

All profiles should inherit from this - but may provide their own
modifications - e.g.

/usr/portage/profiles/arch/sparc/packages adds sparc-utils to @system
on that set of platforms.

Cheers,
malc.

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Paul Hartman
> <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hartman
>>> <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I would like emerge -epv @system to be a fairly contained set of
>>>>> packages. (If possible like it was when I first built the system a
>>>>> mere 5 weeks ago...) It seems out of control on my system these days
>>>>> as it wants to emerge 242 packages. One major contributor is not using
>>>>> a global -cups use flag in make.conf which would reduce it to 178.
>>>>> That was added to figure out why Gnome didn't see Sups printers at
>>>>> all. Sure, I would then have to turn on cups for certain packages but
>>>>> that's OK with me. However I still see cairo, icedtea-bin, virtual
>>>>> java stuff, alsa-libs, and a bunch of x11-proto files so it doesn't
>>>>> feel like @system stuff to me
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Where is the 'system' or '@system' specification on my machine?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) If you folks run emerge -epv @system then how machine packages do you see?
>>>>
>>>> I believe it all depends on the profile you're using. If you're using
>>>> a desktop profile maybe that's why it's calling in GUI toolkits and
>>>> stuff...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Paul. I hadn't thought of that and I think you're correct. I
>>> played a bit with changing profiles and then looking at what emerge
>>> -epv @system would or would not do. It's clearly related.
>>>
>>> In the end I wonder if this is a lost cause? If the packages I run
>>> really require these flags then they are all going to get built the
>>> same way. I'd prefer that @system was simple and that @world showed
>>> how I had changed the system to meet my needs, but I'm not sure it's
>>> worth the effort at this point to get there.
>>
>> Looking in the current desktop profile, it shows this:
>>
>> USE="a52 aac acpi alsa branding cairo cdr dbus dts dvd dvdr eds emboss
>> encode evo fam firefox flac gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk hal jpeg kde
>> ldap libnotify mad mikmod mng mp3 mp4 mpeg ogg opengl pdf png ppds
>> qt3support qt4 quicktime sdl spell svg thunar tiff truetype vorbis
>> win32codecs unicode usb X x264 xml xulrunner xv xvid"
>>
>> So support for things like gnome, gtk, kde and qt4 are there by
>> default. I guess you could take the above list, put a - in front of
>> the ones you don't think you want and put it in make.conf and see what
>> happens. :)
>>
>>
> Yeah, that's interesting and to some extent anyway probably involved
> with why I'm getting a lot of the package I get. What I'm not
> understanding yet is what packages themselves are in @system. Where do
> those come from? I'm assuming that because of all these flags some
> system packages then require more and more support packages as an
> avalance, but I'm not understanding what list of packages gets the
> whole things started.
>
> @world is /var/lib/portage/world.
>
> @system is ?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>