* [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
@ 2008-01-26 17:47 M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2008-01-26 18:45 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-26 20:01 ` Jose Angelini
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky @ 2008-01-26 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
I'm sure this is a frequently *asked* question, but I haven't been able
to find an *answer*. I have Gentoo ("~amd64") running on my Athlon64 X2.
When I start up Firefox and try to use Java, it bounces me into an
"install missing plugin" dialog box. I can click on the button, and it
tells me that it can't install the plugin.
How do I get this to work? Do I need to install a 32-bit Firefox? That's
what I've been able to find from Google on other distros.
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 17:47 [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox?? M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
@ 2008-01-26 18:45 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-26 19:05 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2008-01-26 20:01 ` Jose Angelini
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2008-01-26 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
On Jan 26, 2008 9:47 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
> I'm sure this is a frequently *asked* question, but I haven't been able
> to find an *answer*. I have Gentoo ("~amd64") running on my Athlon64 X2.
> When I start up Firefox and try to use Java, it bounces me into an
> "install missing plugin" dialog box. I can click on the button, and it
> tells me that it can't install the plugin.
>
> How do I get this to work? Do I need to install a 32-bit Firefox? That's
> what I've been able to find from Google on other distros.
My experience is that some Java works on 64-bit and some does not. I
can promise you that in my experience there is definately some Java
out there that doesn't run correctly on AMD64.
However if no Java is working it's probably a USE flags issue or a
missing plugin.
lightning ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11 USE="gnome java
-bindist -debug -filepicker -iceweasel -ipv6 -mozdevelop -moznopango
-restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="-af -ar -be
-bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy
-fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn
-nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk
-sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW" 31 kB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 31 kB
lightning ~ #
Navigate to an empty Firefox window and type about:pugins in the
address bar. Do you see Java support?
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03-b05
File name: libjavaplugin_oji.so
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03
lightning ~ # equery belongs libjavaplugin_oji.so
[ Searching for file(s) libjavaplugin_oji.so in *... ]
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03
(/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so)
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03
(/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so)
lightning ~ #
lightning ~ # emerge -pv emul-linux-x86-java
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03 USE="X
alsa nsplugin" 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #
Hopefully there are enough pointers there to get it working. If you
want to check specific sites then post back a URL.
- Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 18:45 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2008-01-26 19:05 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2008-01-26 19:20 ` Mark Knecht
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky @ 2008-01-26 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
Mark Knecht wrote:
> My experience is that some Java works on 64-bit and some does not. I
> can promise you that in my experience there is definately some Java
> out there that doesn't run correctly on AMD64.
>
> However if no Java is working it's probably a USE flags issue or a
> missing plugin.
>
> lightning ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11 USE="gnome java
> -bindist -debug -filepicker -iceweasel -ipv6 -mozdevelop -moznopango
> -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="-af -ar -be
> -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy
> -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn
> -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk
> -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW" 31 kB
>
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 31 kB
> lightning ~ #
OK ... my USE flags:
$ emerge -pv mozilla-firefox
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11 USE="ipv6 java
mozdevelop -bindist -debug -filepicker -gnome -iceweasel -moznopango
-restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="-af -ar -be -bg
-ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga
-ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl
-nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE
-tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW" 31 kB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 31 kB
>
> Navigate to an empty Firefox window and type about:pugins in the
> address bar. Do you see Java support?
Nope ... it's not there. But:
>
> Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03-b05
>
> File name: libjavaplugin_oji.so
> Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03
>
> lightning ~ # equery belongs libjavaplugin_oji.so
> [ Searching for file(s) libjavaplugin_oji.so in *... ]
> app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03
> (/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so)
> app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03
> (/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so)
> lightning ~ #
$ equery belongs libjavaplugin_oji.so
[ Searching for file(s) libjavaplugin_oji.so in *... ]
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03
(/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so)
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03
(/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so)
So ... the library is installed, but Firefox doesn't see it.
>
> lightning ~ # emerge -pv emul-linux-x86-java
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild R ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03 USE="X
> alsa nsplugin" 0 kB
>
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
Yep ... it was compiled with all the USE flags.
> lightning ~ #
>
>
> Hopefully there are enough pointers there to get it working. If you
> want to check specific sites then post back a URL.
OK ... I'm going to re-emerge Firefox and see if I can get the plugin to
show up in "about:plugins".
By the way, the "URL" in question is actually an R language help page
that uses Java for searches. They might well have done something uncool
Java-wise, and this is a known issue for the R people. I also installed
seamonkey and tried to get it to work there and it didn't work, but it
didn't complain about a missing plugin either. So stay tuned ...
>
> - Mark
1. USE flags:
$ emerge -pv mozilla-firefox
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11 USE="ipv6 java
mozdevelop -bindist -debug -filepicker -gnome -iceweasel -moznopango
-restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="-af -ar -be -bg
-ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga
-ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl
-nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE
-tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW" 31 kB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 31 kB
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 19:05 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
@ 2008-01-26 19:20 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-26 19:33 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2008-01-26 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
On Jan 26, 2008 11:05 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
<SNIP>
This is likely the culprit:
lightning ~ # eix nspluginwrapper
[I] net-www/nspluginwrapper
Available versions: 0.9.91.4 ~0.9.91.5 ~0.9.91.5-r1
Installed versions: 0.9.91.4(12:21:31 PM 11/12/2007)
Homepage: http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/
Description: Netscape Plugin Wrapper - Load 32bit plugins
on 64bit browser
lightning ~ # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.4 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 19:20 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2008-01-26 19:33 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2008-01-26 19:45 ` Mark Knecht
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky @ 2008-01-26 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Jan 26, 2008 11:05 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>
> This is likely the culprit:
>
> lightning ~ # eix nspluginwrapper
> [I] net-www/nspluginwrapper
> Available versions: 0.9.91.4 ~0.9.91.5 ~0.9.91.5-r1
> Installed versions: 0.9.91.4(12:21:31 PM 11/12/2007)
> Homepage: http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/
> Description: Netscape Plugin Wrapper - Load 32bit plugins
> on 64bit browser
>
> lightning ~ # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.4 0 kB
>
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> lightning ~ #
# emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.5-r1 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
DreamScape ~ #
Well ... I uninstalled mozilla-firefox and installed
mozilla-firefox-bin. It said, "NB -- you are installing a 32-bit
Firefox". The good news is that it works with Java and the R search
engine! The bad news is that it doesn't have all the *other* plugins
that the 64-bit compiled Firefox did. Do I need to re-emerge them? Will
revdep-rebuild clean this up?
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 19:33 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
@ 2008-01-26 19:45 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-26 20:31 ` Beso
2008-01-27 1:44 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2008-01-26 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
On Jan 26, 2008 11:33 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On Jan 26, 2008 11:05 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > This is likely the culprit:
> >
> > lightning ~ # eix nspluginwrapper
> > [I] net-www/nspluginwrapper
> > Available versions: 0.9.91.4 ~0.9.91.5 ~0.9.91.5-r1
> > Installed versions: 0.9.91.4(12:21:31 PM 11/12/2007)
> > Homepage: http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/
> > Description: Netscape Plugin Wrapper - Load 32bit plugins
> > on 64bit browser
> >
> > lightning ~ # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
> >
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.4 0 kB
> >
> > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> > lightning ~ #
>
> # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.5-r1 0 kB
>
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> DreamScape ~ #
>
> Well ... I uninstalled mozilla-firefox and installed
> mozilla-firefox-bin. It said, "NB -- you are installing a 32-bit
> Firefox". The good news is that it works with Java and the R search
> engine! The bad news is that it doesn't have all the *other* plugins
> that the 64-bit compiled Firefox did. Do I need to re-emerge them? Will
> revdep-rebuild clean this up?
This is the age old problem, as far as I know, with 64-bit Linux and a
world full of 32-bit multimedia. I think this wiki will surely
explain it better than I ever could. Hopefully the basic info you need
is there:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_java_on_amd64
I will say that my experience is that so far no single browser/plugin
combination works as well for all web media types as our 32-bit
brethren have, and that doesn't work as well as Windows. There are
issues with Java, Flash support, mplayer and other plugins for
streaming file types, so the answer is no one answer seems to be right
for everyone. My setup work *ok* for me, not well. I'm not happy with
it but I'm not motivated enough to change things. I trade stocks on a
Windows laptop so I use that machine for the numerous things I cannot
do on Linux, 32-bit or 64-bit.
Hope this helps,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 17:47 [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox?? M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2008-01-26 18:45 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2008-01-26 20:01 ` Jose Angelini
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Jose Angelini @ 2008-01-26 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
El sáb, 26-01-2008 a las 09:47 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky escribió:
> I'm sure this is a frequently *asked* question, but I haven't been able
> to find an *answer*. I have Gentoo ("~amd64") running on my Athlon64 X2.
> When I start up Firefox and try to use Java, it bounces me into an
> "install missing plugin" dialog box. I can click on the button, and it
> tells me that it can't install the plugin.
>
> How do I get this to work? Do I need to install a 32-bit Firefox? That's
> what I've been able to find from Google on other distros.
Edward,
you have to emerge emul-linux-x86-java with nsplugin USE flag enabled
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 19:45 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2008-01-26 20:31 ` Beso
2008-01-26 21:45 ` Wil Reichert
2008-01-27 1:44 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Beso @ 2008-01-26 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
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well, java plugin is only build on 32bit. to have it work in firefox there's
only one way: 32bit firefox.
for the other extensions (that on 64bit work) to work with 32bit you need to
build them for 32bit with the correct flag set into portage, on multilib
systems, as yours, portage can build 32bit binaries natively. all you have
to do is pass to portage the right flag to do so and to unmask the 32bit
package. for how to do this search in the gentoo documentation.
the other way to use java on 64bit is konqueror on kde (i don't know it
nautilus does this too): konqueror would use the 64bit javavm, which was
build also on 64bit, and can use flash via nspluginwrapper and
netscape-flash. in this way you'd have a native 64bit web client, with flash
plugin, also only 32bit version, enabled via emulation with nspluginwrapper.
for having konqueror work set it recognization to firefox or iexplore in the
preferences, or you might miss some sites' features that required firefox or
iexploder.
for nautilus on gnome you might try to see if it supports 64bit java and
nspluginwrapper too.
these are the actual choices for java and flash on 64bit platoforms. i
really hope that firefox 3 would come out with support for javavm for linux
and not with only that crappy javaplugin one.
2008/1/26, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:
>
> On Jan 26, 2008 11:33 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net>
> wrote:
> > Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > On Jan 26, 2008 11:05 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > <SNIP>
> > >
> > > This is likely the culprit:
> > >
> > > lightning ~ # eix nspluginwrapper
> > > [I] net-www/nspluginwrapper
> > > Available versions: 0.9.91.4 ~0.9.91.5 ~0.9.91.5-r1
> > > Installed versions: 0.9.91.4(12:21:31 PM 11/12/2007)
> > > Homepage:
> http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/
> > > Description: Netscape Plugin Wrapper - Load 32bit plugins
> > > on 64bit browser
> > >
> > > lightning ~ # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
> > >
> > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> > >
> > > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > > [ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.4 0 kB
> > >
> > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> > > lightning ~ #
> >
> > # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
> >
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.5-r1 0 kB
> >
> > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> > DreamScape ~ #
> >
> > Well ... I uninstalled mozilla-firefox and installed
> > mozilla-firefox-bin. It said, "NB -- you are installing a 32-bit
> > Firefox". The good news is that it works with Java and the R search
> > engine! The bad news is that it doesn't have all the *other* plugins
> > that the 64-bit compiled Firefox did. Do I need to re-emerge them? Will
> > revdep-rebuild clean this up?
>
> This is the age old problem, as far as I know, with 64-bit Linux and a
> world full of 32-bit multimedia. I think this wiki will surely
> explain it better than I ever could. Hopefully the basic info you need
> is there:
>
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_java_on_amd64
>
> I will say that my experience is that so far no single browser/plugin
> combination works as well for all web media types as our 32-bit
> brethren have, and that doesn't work as well as Windows. There are
> issues with Java, Flash support, mplayer and other plugins for
> streaming file types, so the answer is no one answer seems to be right
> for everyone. My setup work *ok* for me, not well. I'm not happy with
> it but I'm not motivated enough to change things. I trade stocks on a
> Windows laptop so I use that machine for the numerous things I cannot
> do on Linux, 32-bit or 64-bit.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mark
> --
> gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 20:31 ` Beso
@ 2008-01-26 21:45 ` Wil Reichert
2008-01-26 23:43 ` Mark Knecht
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Wil Reichert @ 2008-01-26 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
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Theres currently work on a 64-bit plugin. Add the java-gcj-overlay and
emerge dev-java/gcj-jdk with the nsplugin use flag. Then 'eselect
java-nsplugin list' shows:
Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
[1] gcj-jdk-4.3 current
and in firefox about:plugins show
GCJ Web Browser Plugin 0.96-pre
File name: libgcjwebplugin.so The GCJ Web Browser Plugin executes Java
applets.Quite alpha & crashes often, but definitely shows promise.
Wil
On Jan 26, 2008 12:31 PM, Beso <givemesugarr@gmail.com> wrote:
> well, java plugin is only build on 32bit. to have it work in firefox
> there's only one way: 32bit firefox.
> for the other extensions (that on 64bit work) to work with 32bit you need
> to build them for 32bit with the correct flag set into portage, on multilib
> systems, as yours, portage can build 32bit binaries natively. all you have
> to do is pass to portage the right flag to do so and to unmask the 32bit
> package. for how to do this search in the gentoo documentation.
> the other way to use java on 64bit is konqueror on kde (i don't know it
> nautilus does this too): konqueror would use the 64bit javavm, which was
> build also on 64bit, and can use flash via nspluginwrapper and
> netscape-flash. in this way you'd have a native 64bit web client, with flash
> plugin, also only 32bit version, enabled via emulation with nspluginwrapper.
> for having konqueror work set it recognization to firefox or iexplore in the
> preferences, or you might miss some sites' features that required firefox or
> iexploder.
> for nautilus on gnome you might try to see if it supports 64bit java and
> nspluginwrapper too.
> these are the actual choices for java and flash on 64bit platoforms. i
> really hope that firefox 3 would come out with support for javavm for linux
> and not with only that crappy javaplugin one.
>
> 2008/1/26, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:
>
> > On Jan 26, 2008 11:33 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net>
> > wrote:
> > > Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > > On Jan 26, 2008 11:05 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <SNIP>
> > > >
> > > > This is likely the culprit:
> > > >
> > > > lightning ~ # eix nspluginwrapper
> > > > [I] net-www/nspluginwrapper
> > > > Available versions: 0.9.91.4 ~0.9.91.5 ~0.9.91.5-r1
> > > > Installed versions: 0.9.91.4(12:21:31 PM 11/12/2007)
> > > > Homepage:
> > http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/
> > > > Description: Netscape Plugin Wrapper - Load 32bit
> > plugins
> > > > on 64bit browser
> > > >
> > > > lightning ~ # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
> > > >
> > > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> > > >
> > > > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > > > [ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.4 0 kB
> > > >
> > > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> > > > lightning ~ #
> > >
> > > # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
> > >
> > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> > >
> > > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > > [ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.5-r1 0 kB
> > >
> > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> > > DreamScape ~ #
> > >
> > > Well ... I uninstalled mozilla-firefox and installed
> > > mozilla-firefox-bin. It said, "NB -- you are installing a 32-bit
> > > Firefox". The good news is that it works with Java and the R search
> > > engine! The bad news is that it doesn't have all the *other* plugins
> > > that the 64-bit compiled Firefox did. Do I need to re-emerge them?
> > Will
> > > revdep-rebuild clean this up?
> >
> > This is the age old problem, as far as I know, with 64-bit Linux and a
> > world full of 32-bit multimedia. I think this wiki will surely
> > explain it better than I ever could. Hopefully the basic info you need
> > is there:
> >
> > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_java_on_amd64
> >
> > I will say that my experience is that so far no single browser/plugin
> > combination works as well for all web media types as our 32-bit
> > brethren have, and that doesn't work as well as Windows. There are
> > issues with Java, Flash support, mplayer and other plugins for
> > streaming file types, so the answer is no one answer seems to be right
> > for everyone. My setup work *ok* for me, not well. I'm not happy with
> > it but I'm not motivated enough to change things. I trade stocks on a
> > Windows laptop so I use that machine for the numerous things I cannot
> > do on Linux, 32-bit or 64-bit.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Mark
> > --
> > gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> dott. ing. beso
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 21:45 ` Wil Reichert
@ 2008-01-26 23:43 ` Mark Knecht
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From: Mark Knecht @ 2008-01-26 23:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
On Jan 26, 2008 1:45 PM, Wil Reichert <wil.reichert@gmail.com> wrote:
> Theres currently work on a 64-bit plugin. Add the java-gcj-overlay and
> emerge dev-java/gcj-jdk with the nsplugin use flag. Then 'eselect
> java-nsplugin list' shows:
>
> Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
> Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
> [1] gcj-jdk-4.3 current
>
> and in firefox about:plugins show
>
> GCJ Web Browser Plugin 0.96-pre File name: libgcjwebplugin.so The GCJ Web
> Browser Plugin executes Java applets.Quite alpha & crashes often, but
> definitely shows promise.
>
> Wil
>
Wil,
Thanks. That's good news. If I build this 64-bit plugin support can
I choose one or another using eselect or can I only have one or the
other on my system at a time?
Thanks,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-26 19:45 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-26 20:31 ` Beso
@ 2008-01-27 1:44 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2008-01-27 5:20 ` Mark Knecht
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky @ 2008-01-27 1:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
Mark Knecht wrote:
> This is the age old problem, as far as I know, with 64-bit Linux and a
> world full of 32-bit multimedia. I think this wiki will surely
> explain it better than I ever could. Hopefully the basic info you need
> is there:
>
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_java_on_amd64
Way too complicated and risky! My solution is
1. Install 64-bit Firefox (compiled) for my main browser.
2. Install seamonkey-bin (32-bit) and change the R settings to use it as
the browser instead of the default.
So ... everything except Java now works in Firefox and searches work in
R. If something else needs Java, I guess I can use seamonkey-bin for it.
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
2008-01-27 1:44 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
@ 2008-01-27 5:20 ` Mark Knecht
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2008-01-27 5:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
On Jan 26, 2008 5:44 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> > This is the age old problem, as far as I know, with 64-bit Linux and a
> > world full of 32-bit multimedia. I think this wiki will surely
> > explain it better than I ever could. Hopefully the basic info you need
> > is there:
> >
> > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_java_on_amd64
>
> Way too complicated and risky! My solution is
>
> 1. Install 64-bit Firefox (compiled) for my main browser.
> 2. Install seamonkey-bin (32-bit) and change the R settings to use it as
> the browser instead of the default.
>
> So ... everything except Java now works in Firefox and searches work in
> R. If something else needs Java, I guess I can use seamonkey-bin for it.
Glad you found something that works for you. As I said when we started
- there just isn't any single solution that works for everyone. I do
90% of my browsing in 64-bit Firefox and the rest in Firefox on my Win
Vista machine. It works for me, most of the time.
Cheers,
Mark
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