[gentoo-amd64] Gnome 2.12... to 2.14... on X11 v7!

[gentoo-amd64] Gnome 2.12... to 2.14... on X11 v7!

[Christopher E]

Hello all,

Is there any one running the latest Gnome (2.14) that is ~amd64 with
the latest X (7) ~amd64?

If so is there any thing I should look out for before emergeing the
Gnome 2.14 ~amd64?

Sincerely,
Christopher

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Gnome 2.12... to 2.14... on X11 v7!

[Vladimir G. Ivanovic]

Glibc 2.4-r2 + gcc 4.1.0 + gnome 2.14.0 + xorg-x11 7.0-r1 all seem to
work just fine on my AMD64 laptop.

I didn't find any gotchas. I have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64"
set /etc/make.conf, so everything I run is ~amd64.

--- Vladimir

On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 22:53 -0400, Christopher E wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Is there any one running the latest Gnome (2.14) that is ~amd64 with
> the latest X (7) ~amd64?
> 
> If so is there any thing I should look out for before emergeing the
> Gnome 2.14 ~amd64?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Christopher
> 

Vladimir G. Ivanovic
Palo Alto, CA 94306
+1 650 678 8014

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Gnome 2.12... to 2.14... on X11 v7!

[Brian Litzinger]

On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:53:31PM -0400, Christopher E wrote:
> Is there any one running the latest Gnome (2.14) that is ~amd64 with
> the latest X (7) ~amd64?
> 
> If so is there any thing I should look out for before emergeing the
> Gnome 2.14 ~amd64?

No troubles here.

Running ~amd64, gnome 2.14.1, Modular X 7.0 ultra-unstable

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Gnome 2.12... to 2.14... on X11 v7!

[Duncan]

"Christopher E" <sensory.access@gmail.com> posted
184c54640605101953m21b513a1v39c4d10b372bf7f2@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
below, on  Wed, 10 May 2006 22:53:31 -0400:

> Is there any one running the latest Gnome (2.14) that is ~amd64 with
> the latest X (7) ~amd64?
> 
> If so is there any thing I should look out for before emergeing the
> Gnome 2.14 ~amd64?

Latest?  I suppose this makes me a ricer in some camps, but here, I'm
running xorg 7.1-rc2, the latest masked in-tree version as of yesterday,
compiled with a still masked but surprisingly trouble-free gcc-4.1.0. 

(On the gcc thing, pan 0.9x, again still masked and I'm running a version
from a bumped ebuild in my overlay, to get the latest from the site,
requires >300 MB memory to build with gcc 4.1.0, but 1.3 GIGABYTES to
compile with the old and decrepit but latest unmasked gcc 3.4.6.  Stumbled
across that when an Gentoo amd64 user couldn't get it compiled on his
~arch box running gcc-3.4.x, with "only" a gig of memory -- the kernel OOM
killer kept killing it.  I tested on my box with 8 gig of memory and came
up with the above numbers.)

Anyway, no problems beyond the to-be-expected issues with an xorg rc (the
xorg-native radeon driver isn't recognizing ctrl-alt-numplus/numminus
hotkey zooming, at present, tho the xorg log says it sends it, and
krandr/xrandr work), and of course GNOME's retardedness, lacking a place
to type the path in the filechooser unless you ctrl-L hotkey it, etc.



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Gnome 2.12... to 2.14... on X11 v7!

[Christopher E]

Hello all,

OK, seeing that this seemsto be a workable setup, which order would
you do this in.

I notice that the new verion of gnome pulls in things of x11 but I
don't know if this is for the newer X11 or a older X11.

Sincerely,
Christopher

On 5/11/06, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> "Christopher E" <sensory.access@gmail.com> posted
> 184c54640605101953m21b513a1v39c4d10b372bf7f2@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
> below, on  Wed, 10 May 2006 22:53:31 -0400:
>
> > Is there any one running the latest Gnome (2.14) that is ~amd64 with
> > the latest X (7) ~amd64?
> >
> > If so is there any thing I should look out for before emergeing the
> > Gnome 2.14 ~amd64?
>
> Latest?  I suppose this makes me a ricer in some camps, but here, I'm
> running xorg 7.1-rc2, the latest masked in-tree version as of yesterday,
> compiled with a still masked but surprisingly trouble-free gcc-4.1.0.
>
> (On the gcc thing, pan 0.9x, again still masked and I'm running a version
> from a bumped ebuild in my overlay, to get the latest from the site,
> requires >300 MB memory to build with gcc 4.1.0, but 1.3 GIGABYTES to
> compile with the old and decrepit but latest unmasked gcc 3.4.6.  Stumbled
> across that when an Gentoo amd64 user couldn't get it compiled on his
> ~arch box running gcc-3.4.x, with "only" a gig of memory -- the kernel OOM
> killer kept killing it.  I tested on my box with 8 gig of memory and came
> up with the above numbers.)
>
> Anyway, no problems beyond the to-be-expected issues with an xorg rc (the
> xorg-native radeon driver isn't recognizing ctrl-alt-numplus/numminus
> hotkey zooming, at present, tho the xorg log says it sends it, and
> krandr/xrandr work), and of course GNOME's retardedness, lacking a place
> to type the path in the filechooser unless you ctrl-L hotkey it, etc.
>
>
>
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> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
> and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman
>
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>
>

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Gnome 2.12... to 2.14... on X11 v7!

[Duncan]

"Christopher E" <sensory.access@gmail.com> posted
184c54640605110628x5cfdf346wa98eb487bd20aac9@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
below, on  Thu, 11 May 2006 09:28:22 -0400:

> OK, seeing that this seemsto be a workable setup, which order would
> you do this in.
> 
> I notice that the new verion of gnome pulls in things of x11 but I
> don't know if this is for the newer X11 or a older X11.

In general, it doesn't much matter.  Portage's dependency tracking sorts
it all out for you.  Of course, that depends on the dependencies in the
ebuild being correct -- occasionally they aren't -- but a bad dependency
is a bug and should be processed as such, not the normal behavior.

Here, I do an emerge --sync and then an emerge --newuse --update --deep
(with the requisite --pretend to see what it's going to do first) several
times a week, so everything is routinely updated, and when a new version
of whatever comes out, it doesn't force updating of much else, because 
everything else was already updated when its update first came out.  The
--deep is the critical parameter there, as it tells portage to update not
just the stuff in the world file, but all dependencies thereof, as well. 
Since I do it nearly daily, there's never a big backlog of packages to
merge, since I'm always caught up.  The exception is things like a new
kde release, where all the kde-base packages get updated at once and
there's typically over a hundred individual packages to update.  However,
that's just the way a kde release works, and at least I don't have much
/else/ to update then because everything else is upto date already.



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Gnome 2.12... to 2.14... on X11 v7!

[Vladimir G. Ivanovic]

On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 21:21 -0700, Brian Litzinger wrote:

> No troubles here.
> 
> Running ~amd64, gnome 2.14.1, Modular X 7.0 ultra-unstable
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What seems to be the problem? I haven't had *any* hiccups with 7.0
(assuming that all 7.0's are modular 7.0's) Not one peep.

--- Vladimir

Vladimir G. Ivanovic
Palo Alto, CA 94306
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