* [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? @ 2005-07-11 10:27 Marcel Treis 2005-07-11 15:58 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Marcel Treis @ 2005-07-11 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, since my machine crashes very often especially when emerging, wich seems to be some problem between gentoo-amd64 and nvidia-kernel, i have decided to go "nv" until the issue is resolved. My problem is that i have a dual-monitor-setup, wich i dont seem to configure right. Does anybody of you have a) a dual-monitor-setup using the generic "nv"-driver and could send me the xorg.xonf? or b) any information concerning the above mentioned problem wich id didnt find? Thanks alot! - -- Marcel Treis trei4702@uni-trier.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC0kmN4FZB9iOldXURAqteAKCB9LRAGhxsaVUISyk2u9Z2M3imKQCcC6OK 4INE2DF/nuJIoJPTfMaL/0I= =XlBO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-amd64] Re: xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-11 10:27 [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? Marcel Treis @ 2005-07-11 15:58 ` Duncan 2005-07-11 17:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Kyle Liddell ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Duncan @ 2005-07-11 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 Marcel Treis posted <42D2498D.90001@uni-trier.de>, excerpted below, on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:27:25 +0200: > since my machine crashes very often especially when emerging, wich seems > to be some problem between gentoo-amd64 and nvidia-kernel, i have decided > to go "nv" until the issue is resolved. My problem is that i have a > dual-monitor-setup, wich i dont seem to configure right. Does anybody of > you have > > a) a dual-monitor-setup using the generic "nv"-driver and could send me > the xorg.xonf? I run dual monitor here, but switched from Nvidia to ATI some time ago, because I decided proprietaryware kernel drivers were no longer acceptable to me, with idealism and practicality both playing a role, and NVidia simply doesn't provide enough specifications for their chips to make any of the fancier functions, including dual output, work very well if at all in the open source drivers. More directly to your setup, you say you have dual monitors, but don't mention whether that's on dual cards, or dual outputs on the /same/ card (aka "twinview"). As far as I am aware, the open "nv" driver doesn't support dual outputs on the same card /at/ /all/, again, because NVidia's implementation is proprietary and the required info to interface with it in dual output mode simply hasn't been available, altho it's possible someone has reverse engineered a bit more, recently, and that's changed, since I used the drivers back in the XFree86 4.0 to 4.1 era. If you have dual cards, each with its own output, that may work or not. It depends on the open source driver, not on NVidia so much. (However, note that it's possible some of the better driver devs have chosen not to work with NVidia because NVidia is so obstinate about working with them. Of course, there are always other options available to the developer skilled enough in both hardware and software to be good at drivers, and if they feel they are beating their head against the wall, they could easily find other more fruitful ways to spend their time. Thus, even where the problem isn't direct NVidia interference, it could be that the open drivers for them remain very minimalistic and basic, comparatively, simply because those that can improve them don't find it worth their while to do so.) Anyway, dual output ATI Radeon 9200s (or the 9200SEs, as I have) are now pretty cheap, less than $50 @ Fry's when I got mine a year ago and they've dropped to < $40 since then, when I checked a couple months ago, and the open source native xord drivers for them are **MUCH** better and **MUCH** better supported, so if you can spare $40, that's very possibly the better route to go. Alternatively, as I said, try multiple boards. Otherwise, from my experience up until the switch to xorg at least, support for twinview is /only/ available in the proprietary drivers. Again, it's possible that has changed with newer xorg, but if so, I've seen no hint of it in posts or elsewhere, and I'd certainly note it if I did, because I follow multi-monitor mode developments quite closely, when I see them. Of course, I could still have entirely missed this one, but... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-11 10:27 [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? Marcel Treis 2005-07-11 15:58 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan @ 2005-07-11 17:22 ` Kyle Liddell 2005-07-11 21:41 ` Jared Lindsay 2005-07-12 6:40 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-12 8:39 ` Benny Pedersen 2005-07-14 15:32 ` Marcel Treis 3 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Kyle Liddell @ 2005-07-11 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 What kernel/video card/nvidia driver version/motherboard/etc are you using? Anything special in your X config file? Do you have sideband addressing or fastwrites enabled? If it happens while emerging, prehaps your CPU is getting hot enough that your video card gets too much heat going on and locks up? Does it only happen with TwinView, or with a single monitor with the nvidia driver? Do you have a power hungry video card and a small power supply? I'm using the nvidia driver with my geforce 6800gt and I've had no problems at all. I haven't used TwinView since I got back home from school (no desk space for an extra monitor) but it worked fine for me. The only time I have any problems is when I enable the "EXPERIMENTAL! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!" XRender hardware acceleration. On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 12:27 +0200, Marcel Treis wrote: > b) any information concerning the above mentioned problem wich id didnt > find? > > Thanks alot! -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-11 17:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Kyle Liddell @ 2005-07-11 21:41 ` Jared Lindsay 2005-07-12 2:16 ` Kyle Liddell 2005-07-12 6:40 ` Marcel Treis 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Jared Lindsay @ 2005-07-11 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 I just had a thought on the problem...if you have one of the newer cards (like a 6800), what size power supply do you have? Is it sufficient to handle your video card, processor, and various drives? On 7/11/05, Kyle Liddell <kyle@foobox.homelinux.net> wrote: > What kernel/video card/nvidia driver version/motherboard/etc are you > using? Anything special in your X config file? Do you have sideband > addressing or fastwrites enabled? If it happens while emerging, prehaps > your CPU is getting hot enough that your video card gets too much heat > going on and locks up? Does it only happen with TwinView, or with a > single monitor with the nvidia driver? Do you have a power hungry video > card and a small power supply? > I'm using the nvidia driver with my geforce 6800gt and I've had no > problems at all. I haven't used TwinView since I got back home from > school (no desk space for an extra monitor) but it worked fine for me. > The only time I have any problems is when I enable the "EXPERIMENTAL! > USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!" XRender hardware acceleration. > > On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 12:27 +0200, Marcel Treis wrote: > > > b) any information concerning the above mentioned problem wich id didnt > > find? > > > > Thanks alot! > > > -- > gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-11 21:41 ` Jared Lindsay @ 2005-07-12 2:16 ` Kyle Liddell 2005-07-12 6:18 ` Jared Lindsay 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Kyle Liddell @ 2005-07-12 2:16 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 I've got an Antec 400W PSU (can't seem to find the specs on the Antec website, but I can grab the ratings off the supply itself it if you need them), pushing an A64 3500, the 6800GT, a 3com pci NIC, SB Live, two IDE IDE hdds and two optical IDE drives. I've never had any weird problems, so it seems that the PSU is enough for this computer. On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 13:41 -0800, Jared Lindsay wrote: > I just had a thought on the problem...if you have one of the newer > cards (like a 6800), what size power supply do you have? Is it > sufficient to handle your video card, processor, and various drives? -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-12 2:16 ` Kyle Liddell @ 2005-07-12 6:18 ` Jared Lindsay 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Jared Lindsay @ 2005-07-12 6:18 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 Wow, that is almost identical to my system. The only problem I had was with my PSU (was 380W Antec), but it was related to turning on. I would say you are fine in the PSU department. So...how is your ventilation? On 7/11/05, Kyle Liddell <kyle@foobox.homelinux.net> wrote: > I've got an Antec 400W PSU (can't seem to find the specs on the Antec > website, but I can grab the ratings off the supply itself it if you need > them), pushing an A64 3500, the 6800GT, a 3com pci NIC, SB Live, two IDE > IDE hdds and two optical IDE drives. I've never had any weird problems, > so it seems that the PSU is enough for this computer. > > On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 13:41 -0800, Jared Lindsay wrote: > > I just had a thought on the problem...if you have one of the newer > > cards (like a 6800), what size power supply do you have? Is it > > sufficient to handle your video card, processor, and various drives? > > > -- > gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-11 17:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Kyle Liddell 2005-07-11 21:41 ` Jared Lindsay @ 2005-07-12 6:40 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-12 10:03 ` Marco Matthies ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Marcel Treis @ 2005-07-12 6:40 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2110 bytes --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kyle Liddell wrote: > What kernel/video card/nvidia driver version/motherboard/etc are you > using? I do use the following Software: *media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4 (i think i tried other versions too) *sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r11 Following my Hardware: *A64 2800 *MSI K8N Neo (nForce 3 250Gb) *MSI FX5900-ZT *Zalman 400W PSU Both video card and CPU have a Zalman AlCu on Top. Anything special in your X config file? Not as far as I can see, but i included the file nonetheless. Do you have sideband > addressing or fastwrites enabled? Well, i'm a bit ashamed to say, but i dont know where to get that info :| If it happens while emerging, prehaps > your CPU is getting hot enough that your video card gets too much heat > going on and locks up? That should not be the problem, since my hardware is well cooled afaik. In fact i have a second Gentoo installation on this machine (but only a 32 Bit one), wich doesn't show any problems while emerging, even if i play D2 simutanously. Does it only happen with TwinView, or with a > single monitor with the nvidia driver? I will try that out later, no time to do so until now. Do you have a power hungry video > card and a small power supply? I dont think so, see my hardware list above. > I'm using the nvidia driver with my geforce 6800gt and I've had no > problems at all. I haven't used TwinView since I got back home from > school (no desk space for an extra monitor) but it worked fine for me. > The only time I have any problems is when I enable the "EXPERIMENTAL! > USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!" XRender hardware acceleration. Where would that option be, just so i can check? (Though i do not think i would have activated some option like that *g*) Thanks for your help! - -- Marcel Treis trei4702@uni-trier.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC02Xu4FZB9iOldXURAgTwAJsEb7pJsa8UuVtfixGOb2ymgDL48wCeMhTV udnB7xqpDH+trQ2YVRdG1rw= =GEBl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- [-- Attachment #2: xorg.conf --] [-- Type: text/plain, Size: 4912 bytes --] # ********************************************************************** # ServerLayout sections. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Dual-Head nVIDIA" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard" "CoreKeyboard" # Option "BlankTime" "10" # Option "SuspendTime" "13" # Option "OffTime" "15" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic" ModulePath "/usr/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify # which run-time loadable modules to load when the X server starts up. # ********************************************************************** Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "glx" Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. This contains various server-wide Options. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Option "off time" "5" # Option "Xinerama" "on" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Core keyboard's InputDevice section # ********************************************************************** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "de" Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Core Pointer's InputDevice section # ********************************************************************** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Buttons" "6" Option "ZAxisMapping" "5 6" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "PHILIPS" ModelName "170S" HorizSync 64.0 VertRefresh 60.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "Unknown Board" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "CRT2Position" "RightOf" Option "TwinView" Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1280x1024" Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf" # Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "64.0" Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "UseEdidFreqs" # Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60.0" Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "UseEdidFreqs" Option "RenderAccel" #neu Option "HWcursor" #neu EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections. # ********************************************************************** Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Virtual 2560 1024 Modes "640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024" ViewPort 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection DefaultDepth 24 EndSection ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-12 6:40 ` Marcel Treis @ 2005-07-12 10:03 ` Marco Matthies 2005-07-12 10:48 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-12 17:40 ` Kyle Liddell 2005-07-13 1:14 ` Mike Owen 2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Marco Matthies @ 2005-07-12 10:03 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 Marcel Treis wrote: > Kyle Liddell wrote: >> Do you have sideband >> addressing or fastwrites enabled? > Well, i'm a bit ashamed to say, but i dont know where to get that info :| If you have the nvidia kernel module loaded, it should be available by cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status (not exactly sure, i have the opensource driver activated as well, and then this file is not there). cat /etc/modules.d/nvidia will show you the contents of the nvidia kernel module configuration file. note that any changes made here need to be written to the confiuration file really used (/etc/modules.conf) with modules-update. The modules.d directory is used to make this configuration a bit more modular (no pun intended ;) FYI, i had exactly the same problems as you (X11 would go to 100% CPU and thus lock up the machine when alt-tabbing in gnome no matter what the load, i could only kill it via ssh) and also had to solve this problem by switching to nv, thereby losing dual-head. So you're not alone :) I also think there is a long thread in the gentoo forums dedicated to this topic (titled "x11 crashes" or "x11 uses 100%CPU" or something), but as far as I remember, there weren't any good solutions. Hopefully newer combinations of kernel/nvidia-kernel will solve this problem... Marco -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-12 10:03 ` Marco Matthies @ 2005-07-12 10:48 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-12 11:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan 2005-07-12 12:24 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Michal Žeravík 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Marcel Treis @ 2005-07-12 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Marco Matthies wrote: > If you have the nvidia kernel module loaded, it should be available by > cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status I do have "Side Band Adressing" enabled, "Fast Writes" is disabled. I am currently running a test with the "RenderAccel" Option disabled in xorg.conf, if that doesnt help i'll try to disable abovementioned Options in /etc/modules.d/nvidia. > [...]had to solve this > problem by switching to nv, thereby losing dual-head. Losing dual-head is NOT an Option ;-) Thanks for your help, i'll keep trying :-) - -- Marcel Treis trei4702@uni-trier.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC05/o4FZB9iOldXURAg0/AJ9DwkmU5+5JLp01EMw8rUfqIVqZYwCeNOoR ELme6mFTz8zDWiPrD4xyM4M= =HpCf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-amd64] Re: xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-12 10:48 ` Marcel Treis @ 2005-07-12 11:22 ` Duncan 2005-07-12 12:24 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Michal Žeravík 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Duncan @ 2005-07-12 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 Marcel Treis posted <42D39FE8.5010808@uni-trier.de>, excerpted below, on Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:48:08 +0200: >> [...]had to solve this >> problem by switching to nv, thereby losing dual-head. > > Losing dual-head is NOT an Option ;-) LOL! My thoughts exactly! (I'm running a single Radeon 9200SE with dual output, using the xorg native/open drivers, driving two 400x300 mm (21") monitors in 2048x1536 resolution each.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-12 10:48 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-12 11:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan @ 2005-07-12 12:24 ` Michal Žeravík 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Michal Žeravík @ 2005-07-12 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 Marcel Treis wrote: > Marco Matthies wrote: > > >If you have the nvidia kernel module loaded, it should be available by > >cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status > > > I do have "Side Band Adressing" enabled, "Fast Writes" is disabled. > I am currently running a test with the "RenderAccel" Option disabled in > xorg.conf, if that doesnt help i'll try to disable abovementioned > Options in /etc/modules.d/nvidia. > are there options for pci-e cards as well? > > >[...]had to solve this > >problem by switching to nv, thereby losing dual-head. > > > Losing dual-head is NOT an Option ;-) > > > Thanks for your help, i'll keep trying :-) > > -- > > > Marcel Treis > trei4702@uni-trier.de > -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-12 6:40 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-12 10:03 ` Marco Matthies @ 2005-07-12 17:40 ` Kyle Liddell 2005-07-12 23:50 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-13 1:14 ` Mike Owen 2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Kyle Liddell @ 2005-07-12 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 08:40 +0200, Marcel Treis wrote: > I do use the following Software: > *media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4 (i think i tried other versions too) > *sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r11 I'm using nvidia-kernel 1.0.7667, xorg 6.8.2-r2 and gentoo-sources 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 (~amd64 as you can see) I've always run unstable on here so I don't know if that is exactly the problem, but I would give the latest drivers a try. > Following my Hardware: > *A64 2800 > *MSI K8N Neo (nForce 3 250Gb) > *MSI FX5900-ZT > *Zalman 400W PSU > Both video card and CPU have a Zalman AlCu on Top. Doesn't seem like your PSU is too weak then. > I do have "Side Band Adressing" enabled, "Fast Writes" is disabled. You might give things a try with SBA off too...however, if you ever do get a working setup I would see if you can turn those back on. If you don't do much 3d stuff it won't matter, but in good old UT classic my framerates doubled when I enabled Fast Writes. > > The only time I have any problems is when I enable the "EXPERIMENTAL! > > USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!" XRender hardware acceleration. > > Where would that option be, just so i can check? (Though i do not think > i would have activated some option like that *g*) That's the RenderAccel option that you said you've disabled. There's also AllowGLXWithComposite that makes RenderAccel even more unstable, but I didn't see that in your config file. I would definitely give the latest drivers a try. Oh also, you might try the different AGPGART options (whether to use the kernel supplied driver or the nvidia supplied driver). Again, I've never had a problem with the nvidia drivers unless I use the XComposite extensions. (Actually I can enable RenderAccel and load the XComposite extension with no problems, but as soon as I run "xcompmgr" it seems to start a 2-3 hour countdown timer until X goes to 100%cpu, xcompmgr eats all my memory, and then X crashes). One thing: in your original mail you said that your "machine crashes". What exactly do you mean? X crashes and goes back to the console? X locks up, but can use machine remotely? System locks up/crashes/reboots? If just X dies I'd say you just need to keep kicking around drivers and options, but if your system locks up/crashes I'd still look into something involving hardware...maybe run nvidia-settings while you try to crash the system and see if the GPU temp gets too high, etc etc. (What are your CPU/system/GPU temps during idle and compile anyway (if disabling RenderAccel didn't fix the problem)). Kyle -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-12 17:40 ` Kyle Liddell @ 2005-07-12 23:50 ` Marcel Treis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Marcel Treis @ 2005-07-12 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kyle Liddell wrote: > [...] Thanks for those tips, i'll keep on trying. > One thing: in your original mail you said that your "machine crashes". > What exactly do you mean? X crashes and goes back to the console? X > locks up, but can use machine remotely? System locks > up/crashes/reboots? I admit that was a bit unprecise. What happens is that sometimes the X Server stops responding, meanwhile there's A LOT of hard disk activity (swapping?). I also encountered the situation that the window decorations (symbols for closing, minimizing, etc.) are gone and basically just about all KDE functionality is unavailable, i can only see the topmost window (and i think that windows from different desktops were mixed into one desktop too). In this situation i also got some log entries in Strg+Alt+F12 saying smth. about HighMem, wich was full. > If just X dies I'd say you just need to keep kicking around drivers and > options, but if your system locks up/crashes I'd still look into > something involving hardware...maybe run nvidia-settings while you try > to crash the system and see if the GPU temp gets too high, etc etc. > (What are your CPU/system/GPU temps during idle and compile anyway (if > disabling RenderAccel didn't fix the problem)). I will report on that shortly, after i was able to do those test. Though i dont think it could be thermal problems since i had no problems at all witch my second gentoo installation (gentoo-i386). Thanks for all those proposals and good night from germany for now. :-) - -- Marcel Treis trei4702@uni-trier.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFC1Fc04FZB9iOldXURAkGbAJ9K5EnX2gSh4Avlp+r0Zr0Q0nV23QCYtVCc 72FnfLiPgaP93uHMD5kVeg== =9nTP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-12 6:40 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-12 10:03 ` Marco Matthies 2005-07-12 17:40 ` Kyle Liddell @ 2005-07-13 1:14 ` Mike Owen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Mike Owen @ 2005-07-13 1:14 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 On 7/11/05, Marcel Treis <trei4702@uni-trier.de> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Kyle Liddell wrote: > > What kernel/video card/nvidia driver version/motherboard/etc are you > > using? > > I do use the following Software: > *media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4 (i think i tried other versions too) > *sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r11 > > Following my Hardware: > *A64 2800 > *MSI K8N Neo (nForce 3 250Gb) > *MSI FX5900-ZT > *Zalman 400W PSU > Both video card and CPU have a Zalman AlCu on Top. > > I was unable to get those drivers to work on an em64t box, as soon as I switched to nvidia-kernel-1.0-7664 it worked perfectly. This is running 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 Mike -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-11 10:27 [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? Marcel Treis 2005-07-11 15:58 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan 2005-07-11 17:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Kyle Liddell @ 2005-07-12 8:39 ` Benny Pedersen 2005-07-14 15:32 ` Marcel Treis 3 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Benny Pedersen @ 2005-07-12 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 On Mon, July 11, 2005 12:27, Marcel Treis wrote: > since my machine crashes very often especially when emerging, wich seems > to be some problem between gentoo-amd64 and nvidia-kernel, latest kernel 2.6.12-r4 and unstable nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx is stable here on my amd64 i remember using stable nvidia-kernel :-) -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? 2005-07-11 10:27 [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? Marcel Treis ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2005-07-12 8:39 ` Benny Pedersen @ 2005-07-14 15:32 ` Marcel Treis 3 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Marcel Treis @ 2005-07-14 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-amd64 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 He folks, thanks for all your proposals, but sadly nothing quite worked, so i have to stick with my 32-bit gentoo for now, since i lack the time for running experiments. Thanks again for your help, I'll be back! - -- Marcel Treis trei4702@uni-trier.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC1oWd4FZB9iOldXURAt7TAJ9COv2ZmDmvClJQYgmFY+aCuZ385ACfc01m oIjVsF7vzERQssQB/y3OSuw= =1jJ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2005-07-14 13:34 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 16+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2005-07-11 10:27 [gentoo-amd64] xorg Dual-Head Layout with nv-Driver? Marcel Treis 2005-07-11 15:58 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan 2005-07-11 17:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Kyle Liddell 2005-07-11 21:41 ` Jared Lindsay 2005-07-12 2:16 ` Kyle Liddell 2005-07-12 6:18 ` Jared Lindsay 2005-07-12 6:40 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-12 10:03 ` Marco Matthies 2005-07-12 10:48 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-12 11:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan 2005-07-12 12:24 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Michal Žeravík 2005-07-12 17:40 ` Kyle Liddell 2005-07-12 23:50 ` Marcel Treis 2005-07-13 1:14 ` Mike Owen 2005-07-12 8:39 ` Benny Pedersen 2005-07-14 15:32 ` Marcel Treis
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