[gentoo-amd64] install amarok??

[gentoo-amd64] install amarok??

[Paul Stear]

Hi,
Is it possible to emerge amarok 2.3.0.90 without reducing mysql from 5.1.46 to 
5.0.90-r2 with all the problems that would cause.
equery d mysql  shows:-
 * These packages depend on mysql:
dev-db/mysql-5.1.46 (=virtual/mysql-5.1)
dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9 (mysql ? =virtual/mysql-5*)
dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
dev-libs/redland-1.0.10-r2 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.4 (virtual/mysql)
virtual/mysql-5.1 (=dev-db/mysql-5.1*)
x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.2 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)

I don't even know if I need these packages.
How do other distributions get over this - is this just a gentoo problem?
I remember trying to downgrade mysql when amarok stopped working and I got in a 
mess with it all so I am hesitant about trying again without some some 
knowledgeable gentooer's valuable help.

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] install amarok??

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag 11 Mai 2010, Paul Stear wrote:
> Hi,
> Is it possible to emerge amarok 2.3.0.90 without reducing mysql from 5.1.46
> to 5.0.90-r2 with all the problems that would cause.
> equery d mysql  shows:-
>  * These packages depend on mysql:
> dev-db/mysql-5.1.46 (=virtual/mysql-5.1)
> dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9 (mysql ? =virtual/mysql-5*)
> dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
> dev-libs/redland-1.0.10-r2 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
> dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.4 (virtual/mysql)
> virtual/mysql-5.1 (=dev-db/mysql-5.1*)
> x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.2 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
> 
> I don't even know if I need these packages.
> How do other distributions get over this - is this just a gentoo problem?
> I remember trying to downgrade mysql when amarok stopped working and I got
> in a mess with it all so I am hesitant about trying again without some
> some knowledgeable gentooer's valuable help.
> 
> Paul

other distros ship a certain set and don't let you update stuff.

Mask 5.1 and virtual 5.1
Downgrade to 5.0
rebuild all broken packages.
Re login to kde.

Install amarok.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] install amarok??

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
<volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Dienstag 11 Mai 2010, Paul Stear wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Is it possible to emerge amarok 2.3.0.90 without reducing mysql from 5.1.46
>> to 5.0.90-r2 with all the problems that would cause.
>> equery d mysql  shows:-
>>  * These packages depend on mysql:
>> dev-db/mysql-5.1.46 (=virtual/mysql-5.1)
>> dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9 (mysql ? =virtual/mysql-5*)
>> dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
>> dev-libs/redland-1.0.10-r2 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
>> dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.4 (virtual/mysql)
>> virtual/mysql-5.1 (=dev-db/mysql-5.1*)
>> x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.2 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
>>
>> I don't even know if I need these packages.
>> How do other distributions get over this - is this just a gentoo problem?
>> I remember trying to downgrade mysql when amarok stopped working and I got
>> in a mess with it all so I am hesitant about trying again without some
>> some knowledgeable gentooer's valuable help.
>>
>> Paul
>
> other distros ship a certain set and don't let you update stuff.
>
> Mask 5.1 and virtual 5.1
> Downgrade to 5.0
> rebuild all broken packages.
> Re login to kde.
>
> Install amarok.

I agree. This is exactly what I did also.

RES: [gentoo-amd64] install amarok??

[Eduardo Schoedler]

Paul Stear wrote:
> I don't even know if I need these packages.

# USE="-mysql" emerge -va amarok

or put in /etc/portage/package.use:
media-sound/amarok -mysql

and then emerge amarok.



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[gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: install amarok??

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 05/11/2010 07:44 PM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> Paul Stear wrote:
>> I don't even know if I need these packages.
>
> # USE="-mysql" emerge -va amarok
>
> or put in /etc/portage/package.use:
> media-sound/amarok -mysql
>
> and then emerge amarok.

Amarok does not have a "mysql" USE flag.  MySQL is not optional, but 
required; Amarok can't be used without it.

RES: [gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: install amarok??

[Eduardo Schoedler]

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> 
> On 05/11/2010 07:44 PM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> > Paul Stear wrote:
> >> I don't even know if I need these packages.
> >
> > # USE="-mysql" emerge -va amarok
> >
> > or put in /etc/portage/package.use:
> > media-sound/amarok -mysql
> >
> > and then emerge amarok.
> 
> Amarok does not have a "mysql" USE flag.  MySQL is not optional, but
> required; Amarok can't be used without it.

Doesn't have? 


# eix amarok

* media-sound/amarok
     Available versions:
        (3.5)   1.4.10_p20090130-r3
        (4)     (~)2.1 (~)2.1.1 (~)2.2.0
        {+amazon aqua cdda daap debug elibc_FreeBSD ifp ipod kde lastfm linguas_af (...) linguas_zh_TW mp3tunes mp4 mtp musicbrainz ___MYSQL___ njb opengl postgres python real +semantic-desktop visualization xinerama}
     Homepage:            http://amarok.kde.org/
     Description:         Advanced audio player based on KDE framework.



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Re: RES: [gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: install amarok??

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag 11 Mai 2010, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 05/11/2010 07:44 PM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> > > Paul Stear wrote:
> > >> I don't even know if I need these packages.
> > > 
> > > # USE="-mysql" emerge -va amarok
> > > 
> > > or put in /etc/portage/package.use:
> > > media-sound/amarok -mysql
> > > 
> > > and then emerge amarok.
> > 
> > Amarok does not have a "mysql" USE flag.  MySQL is not optional, but
> > required; Amarok can't be used without it.
> 
> Doesn't have?
> 
> 
> # eix amarok
> 
> * media-sound/amarok
>      Available versions:
>         (3.5)   1.4.10_p20090130-r3
>         (4)     (~)2.1 (~)2.1.1 (~)2.2.0
>         {+amazon aqua cdda daap debug elibc_FreeBSD ifp ipod kde lastfm
> linguas_af (...) linguas_zh_TW mp3tunes mp4 mtp musicbrainz ___MYSQL___
> njb opengl postgres python real +semantic-desktop visualization xinerama}
> Homepage:            http://amarok.kde.org/
>      Description:         Advanced audio player based on KDE framework.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Eduardo Schoedler

those are the useflags for 1.4

2.0 does not have a mysql (or postgresql) useflag anymore.
Behold:
media-sound/amarok
     Available versions:  (4) 2.2.0 2.2.0[2] (~)2.2.2{tbz2} (~)2.2.2{tbz2}[2] 
2.2.2-r1 2.2.2-r1[2] (~)2.2.2.90!t{tbz2} (~)2.2.2.90!t{tbz2}[2] 
(~)2.3.0!t{tbz2} (~)2.3.0-r1!t (~)2.3.0.90!t{tbz2} **9999[1]                                                                                                                      
        {aqua bindist cdda daap debug (+)embedded ipod kdeenablefinal lastfm 
linguas_bg linguas_ca linguas_cs linguas_da linguas_de linguas_en_GB 
linguas_es linguas_et linguas_eu linguas_fi linguas_fr linguas_it linguas_ja 
linguas_km linguas_nb linguas_nds linguas_nl linguas_pa linguas_pl linguas_pt 
linguas_pt_BR linguas_ru linguas_sl linguas_sr linguas_sr@latin linguas_sv 
linguas_th linguas_tr linguas_uk linguas_wa linguas_zh_TW mp3tunes mtp opengl 
(+)semantic-desktop} 

Re: RES: [gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: install amarok??

[Dan Reidy]

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On Tuesday 11 May 2010 2:49:50 pm Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 05/11/2010 07:44 PM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> > > Paul Stear wrote:
> > >> I don't even know if I need these packages.
> > >
> > > # USE="-mysql" emerge -va amarok
> > >
> > > or put in /etc/portage/package.use:
> > > media-sound/amarok -mysql
> > >
> > > and then emerge amarok.
> >
> > Amarok does not have a "mysql" USE flag.  MySQL is not optional, but
> > required; Amarok can't be used without it.
> 
> Doesn't have?
> 
> 
> # eix amarok
> 
> * media-sound/amarok
>      Available versions:
>         (3.5)   1.4.10_p20090130-r3
>         (4)     (~)2.1 (~)2.1.1 (~)2.2.0
>         {+amazon aqua cdda daap debug elibc_FreeBSD ifp ipod kde lastfm
>  linguas_af (...) linguas_zh_TW mp3tunes mp4 mtp musicbrainz ___MYSQL___
>  njb opengl postgres python real +semantic-desktop visualization xinerama}
>  Homepage:            http://amarok.kde.org/
>      Description:         Advanced audio player based on KDE framework.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Eduardo Schoedler
> 
I think you're a bit out of date...

stargazer ~ # eix media-sound/amarok
[I] media-sound/amarok
     Available versions:  (4) 2.2.0 ~2.2.2 2.2.2-r1 ~2.2.2.90!t ~2.3.0!t 
~2.3.0-r1!t
	{aqua bindist cdda daap debug (+)embedded ipod kdeenablefinal lastfm 
linguas_bg linguas_ca linguas_cs linguas_da linguas_de linguas_en_GB 
linguas_es linguas_et linguas_eu linguas_fi linguas_fr linguas_it linguas_ja 
linguas_km linguas_nb linguas_nds linguas_nl linguas_pa linguas_pl linguas_pt 
linguas_pt_BR linguas_ru linguas_sl linguas_sr linguas_sr@latin linguas_sv 
linguas_th linguas_tr linguas_uk linguas_wa linguas_zh_TW mp3tunes mtp opengl 
(+)semantic-desktop}
     Installed versions:  2.2.2-r1(4)(03:40:51 PM 03/12/2010)(embedded lastfm 
opengl semantic-desktop -aqua -cdda -daap -debug -ipod -kdeenablefinal -
linguas_bg -linguas_ca -linguas_cs -linguas_da -linguas_de -linguas_en_GB -
linguas_es -linguas_et -linguas_eu -linguas_fi -linguas_fr -linguas_it -
linguas_ja -linguas_km -linguas_nb -linguas_nds -linguas_nl -linguas_pa -
linguas_pl -linguas_pt -linguas_pt_BR -linguas_ru -linguas_sl -linguas_sr -
linguas_sr@latin -linguas_sv -linguas_th -linguas_tr -linguas_uk -linguas_wa -
linguas_zh_TW -mp3tunes -mtp)
     Homepage:            http://amarok.kde.org/
     Description:         Advanced audio player based on KDE framework.

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: Re: RES: install amarok??

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 05/11/2010 09:49 PM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>
>> On 05/11/2010 07:44 PM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
>>> Paul Stear wrote:
>>>> I don't even know if I need these packages.
>>>
>>> # USE="-mysql" emerge -va amarok
>>>
>>> or put in /etc/portage/package.use:
>>> media-sound/amarok -mysql
>>>
>>> and then emerge amarok.
>>
>> Amarok does not have a "mysql" USE flag.  MySQL is not optional, but
>> required; Amarok can't be used without it.
>
> Doesn't have?
>
>
> # eix amarok
>
> * media-sound/amarok
>       Available versions:
>          (3.5)   1.4.10_p20090130-r3
>          (4)     (~)2.1 (~)2.1.1 (~)2.2.0
>          {+amazon aqua cdda daap debug elibc_FreeBSD ifp ipod kde lastfm linguas_af (...) linguas_zh_TW mp3tunes mp4 mtp musicbrainz ___MYSQL___ njb opengl postgres python real +semantic-desktop visualization xinerama}
>       Homepage:            http://amarok.kde.org/
>       Description:         Advanced audio player based on KDE framework.

How many months is it since you've run emerge --sync? :P

Amarok 1.x, which had a "mysql" flag, is not in portage anymore and is 
gone for a long time now.  Also, Amarok is at 2.3.x now, and 2.2.x has 
been marked stable in Portage.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: install amarok??

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Eduardo Schoedler
<eschoedler@viavale.com.br> wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>
>> On 05/11/2010 07:44 PM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
>> > Paul Stear wrote:
>> >> I don't even know if I need these packages.
>> >
>> > # USE="-mysql" emerge -va amarok
>> >
>> > or put in /etc/portage/package.use:
>> > media-sound/amarok -mysql
>> >
>> > and then emerge amarok.
>>
>> Amarok does not have a "mysql" USE flag.  MySQL is not optional, but
>> required; Amarok can't be used without it.
>
> Doesn't have?
>
>
> # eix amarok
>
> * media-sound/amarok
>     Available versions:
>        (3.5)   1.4.10_p20090130-r3
>        (4)     (~)2.1 (~)2.1.1 (~)2.2.0
>        {+amazon aqua cdda daap debug elibc_FreeBSD ifp ipod kde lastfm linguas_af (...) linguas_zh_TW mp3tunes mp4 mtp musicbrainz ___MYSQL___ njb opengl postgres python real +semantic-desktop visualization xinerama}
>     Homepage:            http://amarok.kde.org/
>     Description:         Advanced audio player based on KDE framework.

Amarok 2 does not. You're seeing combined USE flags of Amarok 1 and Amarok 2.

RES: [gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: Re: RES: install amarok??

[Eduardo Schoedler]

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> How many months is it since you've run emerge --sync? :P

Every night! :p


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[gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: Re: RES: Re: RES: install amarok??

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 05/12/2010 12:02 AM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> How many months is it since you've run emerge --sync? :P
>
> Every night! :p

Then you probably missed that you also need to run "eix-update" after 
syncing, or else eix will never update its own database. :)

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: Re: RES: install amarok??

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Eduardo Schoedler
<eschoedler@viavale.com.br> wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> How many months is it since you've run emerge --sync? :P
>
> Every night! :p

I will guess that you have amarok1 in an overlay then perhaps?

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: Re: RES: Re: RES: install amarok??

[Dan Reidy]

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On Tuesday 11 May 2010 6:31:27 pm Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 05/12/2010 12:02 AM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> > Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> How many months is it since you've run emerge --sync? :P
> >
> > Every night! :p
> 
> Then you probably missed that you also need to run "eix-update" after
> syncing, or else eix will never update its own database. :)
> 

you could put something like this in /etc/cron.d/eix-update

#!/bin/bash
SHELL=/bin/bash
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
MAILTO=root
HOME=/

export EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=""

@daily    portage    /usr/bin/layman -S
@daily    root       /usr/bin/eix-sync -q


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: RES: Re: RES: Re: RES: install amarok??

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Mittwoch 12 Mai 2010, Dan Reidy wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 May 2010 6:31:27 pm Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 05/12/2010 12:02 AM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote:
> > > Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > >> How many months is it since you've run emerge --sync? :P
> > > 
> > > Every night! :p
> > 
> > Then you probably missed that you also need to run "eix-update" after
> > syncing, or else eix will never update its own database. :)
> 
> you could put something like this in /etc/cron.d/eix-update
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> MAILTO=root
> HOME=/
> 
> export EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=""
> 
> @daily    portage    /usr/bin/layman -S
> @daily    root       /usr/bin/eix-sync -q

eix-synx does the layman sync anyway....

Re: [gentoo-amd64] install amarok??

[Barry Schwartz]

Paul Stear <gentoo@appjaws.plus.com> skribis:
> Hi,
> Is it possible to emerge amarok 2.3.0.90 without reducing mysql from 5.1.46 to 
> 5.0.90-r2 with all the problems that would cause.

Patches:
http://git.exherbo.org/?p=kde.git;a=tree;f=packages/media-sound/amarok/files

Re: [gentoo-amd64] install amarok??

[Cédric Godin]

On 05/11/10 15:48, Paul Stear wrote:
> Hi,
> Is it possible to emerge amarok 2.3.0.90 without reducing mysql from 5.1.46 to
> 5.0.90-r2 with all the problems that would cause.
> equery d mysql  shows:-
>   * These packages depend on mysql:
> dev-db/mysql-5.1.46 (=virtual/mysql-5.1)
> dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9 (mysql ? =virtual/mysql-5*)
> dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
> dev-libs/redland-1.0.10-r2 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
> dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.4 (virtual/mysql)
> virtual/mysql-5.1 (=dev-db/mysql-5.1*)
> x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.2 (mysql ? virtual/mysql)
>
> I don't even know if I need these packages.
> How do other distributions get over this - is this just a gentoo problem?
> I remember trying to downgrade mysql when amarok stopped working and I got in a
> mess with it all so I am hesitant about trying again without some some
> knowledgeable gentooer's valuable help.
>
> Paul
>
>    
maybe with a USE=-embedded ? but you have to be prepared to create the 
db, tables, ...

http://amaroklive.com/wiki/MySQL_Server

Cedric

Re: [gentoo-amd64] install amarok??

[Paul Stear]

On Wednesday 12 May 2010 04:40:08 Barry Schwartz wrote:
> Paul Stear <gentoo@appjaws.plus.com> skribis:
> > Hi,
> > Is it possible to emerge amarok 2.3.0.90 without reducing mysql from
> > 5.1.46 to 5.0.90-r2 with all the problems that would cause.
> 
> Patches:
> http://git.exherbo.org/?p=kde.git;a=tree;f=packages/media-sound/amarok/file
> s
Hello Barry,
Thanks for the link.  Could you explain exactly how I download and apply the 
patch.
Will the ebuild for amarok-2.3.0.90 work then with mysql-5.1.46? I was under 
the impression that the ebuild has a dependency of <mysql-5.1
Thanks for your help
Paul
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] install amarok??

[Barry Schwartz]

Paul Stear <gentoo@appjaws.plus.com> skribis:
> On Wednesday 12 May 2010 04:40:08 Barry Schwartz wrote:
> > Paul Stear <gentoo@appjaws.plus.com> skribis:
> > > Hi,
> > > Is it possible to emerge amarok 2.3.0.90 without reducing mysql from
> > > 5.1.46 to 5.0.90-r2 with all the problems that would cause.
> > 
> > Patches:
> > http://git.exherbo.org/?p=kde.git;a=tree;f=packages/media-sound/amarok/file
> > s
> Hello Barry,
> Thanks for the link.  Could you explain exactly how I download and apply the 
> patch.
> Will the ebuild for amarok-2.3.0.90 work then with mysql-5.1.46? I was under 
> the impression that the ebuild has a dependency of <mysql-5.1

Well, you have to be able to do some ebuild programming. I simply
noticed that I had mysql 5.1 and amarok installed together on my
Exherbo box and so went to see what patches were involved.

(You could try -embedded but I'm not sure that will work, because I
used to run Amarok with -embedded, because +embedded didn't work very
well for me, but I hardmasked mysql 5.1 on account of Amarok. I just
don't remember whether I did the hardmasking before or after going
with -embedded. I myself would have been reluctant to tie my software
to anything as cumbering as mysql.)

[gentoo-amd64] Re: install amarok??

[Duncan]

Barry Schwartz posted on Wed, 12 May 2010 16:18:57 -0500 as excerpted:

> [...] on account of Amarok. [...] I myself would have been reluctant
> to tie my software to anything as cumbering as mysql.

This isn't a solution for everyone, YMMV, etc, particularly for those who 
actually use all the Amarok fancy features, but for me, most of them were 
just bloat, and when amarok decided to go with a mysql feature that at the 
time didn't even work properly on amd64, I decided it was time I find a 
less bloated and complicated to keep working music player.  Again, YMMV.

I ended up choosing mpd, music player daemon, here, because it has all 
sorts of front ends, including command line, ncurses, gtk, qt (both 3 and 
4), kde, even a web based front-end so you can control it remotely.  I 
didn't use all those but did merge mpc (command line), the two ncurses 
frontends, and qmpdclient (qt4), as well as mpd itself.  At the time I was 
still running qt3/kde3, so I merged one for that too, but of course it's 
now unmerged.

Basically I traded a bunch of features I didn't use anyway, plus the kde3 
amarok visualizations which I still miss but which the kde4 version didn't 
have at the time anyway, for a **MUCH** simpler and less troublesome to 
maintain install, and a player that can be started at bootup and 
controlled from the command line if desired, regardless of whether X is 
running or not.

There were a couple other more traditional ncurses based players I looked 
at too, with the idea of killing the X dependency.  If I hadn't decided on 
mpd due to its multiple front-ends, I'd have likely chosen one of those, 
and simply run it from a VC or a konsole window.  One of them even offered 
a disconnectable control interface, so I could have started it in a 
konsole window, then shut down the controller, konsole, KDE and X, and had 
it still playing.  That was the runner-up to mpd.  But mpd by virtue of 
its front-end and daemon design did that too, plus had multiple front-ends 
to choose from including graphical ones if I was running X, so that's what 
I chose.

So anyway, what I'm saying is that there /are/ alternatives to amarok.  
They may be worth considering, particularly if you're not using all the 
fancy amarok features anyway.  They are CERTAINLY less complex and 
therefore less trouble to keep "just working".  But if you're using all 
the fancy amarok features, particularly the database backed ones, it may 
very well be worth the hassle of keeping it working, to continue to use 
those features.  Your computer, your music, your decision. =:^) Just be 
aware that amarok isn't the only player out there, and don't artificially 
constrain your choices.  No use going to all the repeated hassle of 
keeping it working, if you're not using the fancy features that make it so 
complex and hard to keep working in the first place.

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