From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISKGf-0002Li-9m for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:19:37 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l83MAIYc014063; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:10:18 GMT Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [63.240.77.81]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l83MAHXh014034 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:10:17 GMT Received: from iwillxp333 (c-71-226-99-102.hsd1.sc.comcast.net[71.226.99.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2007090322101601100lj1pme>; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:10:16 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c7ee77$2eaf7c80$0200a8c0@iwillxp333> From: "Drake Donahue" To: References: <200708191134.56774.prh@gotadsl.co.uk><200708281543.33529.prh@gotadsl.co.uk><003b01c7e994$ae18f010$0200a8c0@iwillxp333><200708290950.03237.prh@gotadsl.co.uk><003e01c7ea73$9234f030$0200a8c0@iwillxp333> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Disk boot order in grub Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:10:04 -0400 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Archives-Salt: 54393dda-cc9d-40ce-aec5-cb50344ff683 X-Archives-Hash: a7ce6d1d31c320b3ee4cc2030f68f3b3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan" <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Disk boot order in grub and Duncan opined: > Any insights into why nobody seems to be doing the LiveCD/DVD GRUB boot > > now, and why everyone's using ISOLinux instead? Is it just that ISOLinux > is the tried and true method that everyone was using before GRUB became > an option, and new guys are simply copying stuff from other LiveCDs that > obviously works? Seems to me the direct-boot emulation-less way would be > MUCH simpler and more flexible, so why isn't everyone (or even a suitable > number of "anyones") using it? > > I've on my list of things to do to go ask the Gentoo releng team as > well. Why aren't /they/ using grub, since it's the default once the > system is installed. Seems it would be more efficient than shipping > ISOLinux and then using it for nothing other than the CD/DVD boot, since > grub could at least potentially be dual-purposed both to booting the CD, > and to installing directly from there to the new system, as well. > The Gparted LiveCD has switched from isolinux to grub sometime in the last few months. Perhaps a trend is starting? The grub boot menu on this latest Gparted LiveCD does what I set out to do when I got into writing a grub boot cd. In explanation, it will act as a rescue CD with premade menu choices that will boot the first hard drive MBR, first hard drive's first, second, third, or fourth partition, second hard drive MBR. or the second hard drive's first partition. Thus, without advertising it, the Gparted gang have produced a grub rescue cd. The only lack is premade menu entry(ies) to setup grub on the hard drive(s). However dropping from the gparted boot menu into the command line to type : root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) with the knowledge that BIOS and grub are in agreement as to which drive is hd0 does not seem to be a big deal. Clonezilla, which claims Norton ghost type powers to clone drives and make drive images (including over the network) is also now on the Gparted LiveCD. Gparted LiveCD is really really on my must have list with this edition. > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > -- > gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list > -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list