* [gentoo-admin] GWN email formatting
@ 2003-02-10 3:10 Tristan
2003-02-10 22:11 ` [gentoo-admin] " Chris Smith
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From: Tristan @ 2003-02-10 3:10 UTC (permalink / raw
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The email edition of the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter (GWN) posts web and
email address as footnotes after the paragraph they occur in, which
often means that four or more extremely similar addresses may be listed
one after another with only a number to distinguish them, e.g.
> 18. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=31562
> 19. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=33841
> 20. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=33745
> 21. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=34174
It is not at all clear what these are, other than threads in the Gentoo
forums <http://forums.gentoo.org/>. When reading, it is possible to
totally ignore the footnote references and not realise there is an
webpage associated with what's being discussed, or to forget it by the
time you reach the footnotes, and have to have your thought process upset.
Apparently, this has its origins in the Debian Weekely Newsletter (DWN),
which does things similarly. No doubt, they, in turn, pulled it from the
tradition of publishing a bibliography in books and referencing them by
numbers, often with a smaller references as a footnote.. Being a paged
medium, footnotes always stand out in books, but are ill-suited to
emails, where the footnote will not necessarily be visible until after
the entire paragraph's been read.
However, every medium has its own way of publishing links to webpages
and the like: HTML shows them as hyperlinks, for example. In most media
where hypelinks aren't possible, especially in email, the tradition is
to include them inline surrounded by angle brackets, as with my URL above.
Is there any particular reason why the GWN does this, other than because
that's what the DWN does? Would it be possible to have it changed to the
clearer, more conventional method?
Tristan McLeay.
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* [gentoo-admin] Re:GWN email formatting
2003-02-10 3:10 [gentoo-admin] GWN email formatting Tristan
@ 2003-02-10 22:11 ` Chris Smith
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From: Chris Smith @ 2003-02-10 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw
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On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 03:10, Tristan wrote:
> Is there any particular reason why the GWN does this, other than because
> that's what the DWN does? Would it be possible to have it changed to the
> clearer, more conventional method?
Yes, there is a specific reason IIRC. Sorry to be so general, but I believe
the letter is written in XML, therefore you only need to write one version of
the newsletter, then that can be translated, displayed as a web page (with
hyperlinks and coloured regions of text as is the Gentoo default) or just as
easily sent as a Plain Text email (because not everybody likes HTML mail, it
can be annoying and insecure) with links as footnotes to the text.
You'll probably find that the DWN also has a similar setup with XML, as does
Slashdot and a few other email newsletters.
I guess a solution to this would to be able to have an option to recieve HTML
mail (complete with hyperlinks) or Plain Text.
Hope I could help,
Chris.
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