* [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
@ 2006-09-21 2:58 Easy-Things Info
2006-09-21 3:19 ` Con Tassios
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Easy-Things Info @ 2006-09-21 2:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances -
emerge to automatically install mysql?
I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install mysql 4.1.x
Any suggestions?
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 2:58 Easy-Things Info
@ 2006-09-21 3:19 ` Con Tassios
2006-09-21 13:30 ` Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Con Tassios @ 2006-09-21 3:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances - emerge to
> automatically install mysql?
> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
>
> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
>
> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install mysql 4.1.x
You could try something like:
echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
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* RE: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 3:19 ` Con Tassios
@ 2006-09-21 13:30 ` Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74
2006-09-21 20:07 ` Joseph Drake
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 @ 2006-09-21 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
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try
echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
-----Original Message-----
From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 23:20
To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
-
> emerge to automatically install mysql?
> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
>
> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
>
> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
mysql
> 4.1.x
You could try something like:
echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 13:30 ` Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74
@ 2006-09-21 20:07 ` Joseph Drake
2006-09-21 20:15 ` Brian Kroth
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Joseph Drake @ 2006-09-21 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
I think this will result in failed dependencies.
Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 wrote:
> try
>
> echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 23:20
> To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
>
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
>
>
>> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
>>
> -
>
>> emerge to automatically install mysql?
>> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
>>
>> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
>>
>> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
>>
> mysql
>
>> 4.1.x
>>
>
>
> You could try something like:
>
> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
>
> --
> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 20:07 ` Joseph Drake
@ 2006-09-21 20:15 ` Brian Kroth
2006-09-21 23:34 ` Maurice E Johnson
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Brian Kroth @ 2006-09-21 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
Joseph Drake wrote:
> I think this will result in failed dependencies.
>
> Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 wrote:
>> try
>>
>> echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
Exactly, that's why /etc/portage/package.provided was created. The
previous solution was correct. Namely:
>> You could try something like:
>>
>> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
"man portage" for more more info.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 23:20
>> To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
>>
>>
>>> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
>>>
>> -
>>
>>> emerge to automatically install mysql?
>>> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
>>>
>>> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
>>>
>>> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
>>>
>> mysql
>>
>>> 4.1.x
>>>
>>
>> You could try something like:
>>
>> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
>>
>> --
>> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>>
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 20:15 ` Brian Kroth
@ 2006-09-21 23:34 ` Maurice E Johnson
2006-09-22 14:24 ` Brian Kroth
` (2 more replies)
2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
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From: Maurice E Johnson @ 2006-09-21 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
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But wouldn't an attempt to install an app dependent on mysql
potentially succeed eroniously? What I'm trying to see - and
education is always a good thing - is that in order to truely
block mysql, you would need something a bit more complex than an
entree in /etc/portage/package.provided.
Something in addition? like:
equery --nocolor hasuse mysql|awk '{print ">="$1}' >
</etc/portage/package.provided|/etc/portage/package.mask>
to avoid the consequences of basically saying that it's there
when it isn't?
I have read the man page, but it doesn't seem to address the
consequenses down the road for this condition.
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From: Brian Kroth <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:15:45 -0500
Message-ID: <4512F2F1.4090203@wisc.edu>
Joseph Drake wrote:
> I think this will result in failed dependencies.
>
> Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 wrote:
>> try
>>
>> echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
Exactly, that's why /etc/portage/package.provided was created. The
previous solution was correct. Namely:
>> You could try something like:
>>
>> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
"man portage" for more more info.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 23:20
>> To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
>>
>>
>>> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
>>>
>> -
>>
>>> emerge to automatically install mysql?
>>> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
>>>
>>> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
>>>
>>> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
>>>
>> mysql
>>
>>> 4.1.x
>>>
>>
>> You could try something like:
>>
>> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
>>
>> --
>> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>>
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 23:34 ` Maurice E Johnson
@ 2006-09-22 14:24 ` Brian Kroth
2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
` (2 more replies)
2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
2 siblings, 3 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Brian Kroth @ 2006-09-22 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
Maurice E Johnson wrote:
> But wouldn't an attempt to install an app dependent on mysql
> potentially succeed eroniously? What I'm trying to see - and
> education is always a good thing - is that in order to truely block
> mysql, you would need something a bit more complex than an entree in
> /etc/portage/package.provided.
>
> Something in addition? like:
>
> equery --nocolor hasuse mysql|awk '{print ">="$1}' >
> </etc/portage/package.provided|/etc/portage/package.mask>
>
> to avoid the consequences of basically saying that it's there when
> it isn't?
>
> I have read the man page, but it doesn't seem to address the
> consequenses down the road for this condition.
I don't think it necessarily should. By putting something in
packages.provided you're telling portage that you've taken care of that
package manually, so it can assume that the dependency has been
fulfilled. If at some point down the road your system runs into
compile or dependency problems you know where to look.
Just to clarify the situation though - you're installing mysql manually,
and trying to emerge mytop or something else that generally needs mysql
as a dependency, and you just want it to use your custom built one
rather than ever emerging portage's stock mysql, correct?
Another option, although probably one that requires more work, would be
to make an ebuild for your custom built mysql, include it in the local
overlay and as an added precaution so that you know when a new version
is out mask all higher versions. Then "emerge <whatever it is that
needs mysql>" should work just as if it were using the stock mysql.
Actually you could probably do the second part in conjunction with
packages.provided rather than creating an ebuild.
The downside is that whenever your dependent package's requirements
changed you would most likely get errors about mysql being masked, and
you'd have to do some conf tweaking again. The upside is that you'd be
notified and it wouldn't be emerging mysql.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> From:
> Brian Kroth <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
> Date:
> Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:15:45 -0500
> To:
> gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
>
> To:
> gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
>
>
> Joseph Drake wrote:
>> I think this will result in failed dependencies.
>>
>> Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 wrote:
>>> try
>>>
>>> echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
>
> Exactly, that's why /etc/portage/package.provided was created. The
> previous solution was correct. Namely:
>
> >> You could try something like:
> >>
> >> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
>
> "man portage" for more more info.
>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September
>>> 20, 2006 23:20
>>> To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
>>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
>>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
>>>>
>>> -
>>>> emerge to automatically install mysql?
>>>> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
>>>>
>>>> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
>>>>
>>>> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
>>>>
>>> mysql
>>>> 4.1.x
>>>>
>>>
>>> You could try something like:
>>>
>>> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
>>>
>>> --
>>> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>>>
>>
>>
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
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@ 2006-09-24 11:32 ` Justin Krejci
2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Justin Krejci @ 2006-09-24 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin; +Cc: Easy-Things Info
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 21:58, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances -
> emerge to automatically install mysql?
> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
>
> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
>
> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install mysql 4.1.x
>
> Any suggestions?
I know others have already provided suggestions but I have found emerge's -t
option useful when tracking down dependancies.
As in
emerge -vDupt world
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-24 11:32 ` [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql Justin Krejci
@ 2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
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From: Jörg Vorher @ 2006-10-01 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Krejci" <jus@krytosvirus.com>
To: <gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org>
Cc: "Easy-Things Info" <info@easy-things.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> On Wednesday 20 September 2006 21:58, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> > How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances -
> > emerge to automatically install mysql?
> > I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
> >
> > I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
> >
> > If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install mysql 4.1.x
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
> I know others have already provided suggestions but I have found
emerge's -t
> option useful when tracking down dependancies.
> As in
> emerge -vDupt world
> --
> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-24 11:32 ` [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql Justin Krejci
2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
@ 2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Jörg Vorher @ 2006-10-01 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Krejci" <jus@krytosvirus.com>
To: <gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org>
Cc: "Easy-Things Info" <info@easy-things.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> On Wednesday 20 September 2006 21:58, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> > How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances -
> > emerge to automatically install mysql?
> > I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
> >
> > I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
> >
> > If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install mysql 4.1.x
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
> I know others have already provided suggestions but I have found
emerge's -t
> option useful when tracking down dependancies.
> As in
> emerge -vDupt world
> --
> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-22 14:24 ` Brian Kroth
@ 2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:44 ` Jörg Vorher
2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Jörg Vorher @ 2006-10-01 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Kroth" <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
To: <gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
>
> Maurice E Johnson wrote:
> > But wouldn't an attempt to install an app dependent on mysql
> > potentially succeed eroniously? What I'm trying to see - and
> > education is always a good thing - is that in order to truely block
> > mysql, you would need something a bit more complex than an entree in
> > /etc/portage/package.provided.
> >
> > Something in addition? like:
> >
> > equery --nocolor hasuse mysql|awk '{print ">="$1}' >
> > </etc/portage/package.provided|/etc/portage/package.mask>
> >
> > to avoid the consequences of basically saying that it's there when
> > it isn't?
> >
> > I have read the man page, but it doesn't seem to address the
> > consequenses down the road for this condition.
>
> I don't think it necessarily should. By putting something in
> packages.provided you're telling portage that you've taken care of that
> package manually, so it can assume that the dependency has been
> fulfilled. If at some point down the road your system runs into
> compile or dependency problems you know where to look.
>
> Just to clarify the situation though - you're installing mysql manually,
> and trying to emerge mytop or something else that generally needs mysql
> as a dependency, and you just want it to use your custom built one
> rather than ever emerging portage's stock mysql, correct?
>
> Another option, although probably one that requires more work, would be
> to make an ebuild for your custom built mysql, include it in the local
> overlay and as an added precaution so that you know when a new version
> is out mask all higher versions. Then "emerge <whatever it is that
> needs mysql>" should work just as if it were using the stock mysql.
> Actually you could probably do the second part in conjunction with
> packages.provided rather than creating an ebuild.
>
> The downside is that whenever your dependent package's requirements
> changed you would most likely get errors about mysql being masked, and
> you'd have to do some conf tweaking again. The upside is that you'd be
> notified and it wouldn't be emerging mysql.
>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject:
> > Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> > From:
> > Brian Kroth <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
> > Date:
> > Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:15:45 -0500
> > To:
> > gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >
> > To:
> > gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >
> >
> > Joseph Drake wrote:
> >> I think this will result in failed dependencies.
> >>
> >> Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 wrote:
> >>> try
> >>>
> >>> echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
> >
> > Exactly, that's why /etc/portage/package.provided was created. The
> > previous solution was correct. Namely:
> >
> > >> You could try something like:
> > >>
> > >> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
> >
> > "man portage" for more more info.
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September
> >>> 20, 2006 23:20
> >>> To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
> >>>>
> >>> -
> >>>> emerge to automatically install mysql?
> >>>> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
> >>>>
> >>>> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
> >>>>
> >>>> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
> >>>>
> >>> mysql
> >>>> 4.1.x
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You could try something like:
> >>>
> >>> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-22 14:24 ` Brian Kroth
2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
@ 2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:44 ` Jörg Vorher
2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Jörg Vorher @ 2006-10-01 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Kroth" <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
To: <gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
>
> Maurice E Johnson wrote:
> > But wouldn't an attempt to install an app dependent on mysql
> > potentially succeed eroniously? What I'm trying to see - and
> > education is always a good thing - is that in order to truely block
> > mysql, you would need something a bit more complex than an entree in
> > /etc/portage/package.provided.
> >
> > Something in addition? like:
> >
> > equery --nocolor hasuse mysql|awk '{print ">="$1}' >
> > </etc/portage/package.provided|/etc/portage/package.mask>
> >
> > to avoid the consequences of basically saying that it's there when
> > it isn't?
> >
> > I have read the man page, but it doesn't seem to address the
> > consequenses down the road for this condition.
>
> I don't think it necessarily should. By putting something in
> packages.provided you're telling portage that you've taken care of that
> package manually, so it can assume that the dependency has been
> fulfilled. If at some point down the road your system runs into
> compile or dependency problems you know where to look.
>
> Just to clarify the situation though - you're installing mysql manually,
> and trying to emerge mytop or something else that generally needs mysql
> as a dependency, and you just want it to use your custom built one
> rather than ever emerging portage's stock mysql, correct?
>
> Another option, although probably one that requires more work, would be
> to make an ebuild for your custom built mysql, include it in the local
> overlay and as an added precaution so that you know when a new version
> is out mask all higher versions. Then "emerge <whatever it is that
> needs mysql>" should work just as if it were using the stock mysql.
> Actually you could probably do the second part in conjunction with
> packages.provided rather than creating an ebuild.
>
> The downside is that whenever your dependent package's requirements
> changed you would most likely get errors about mysql being masked, and
> you'd have to do some conf tweaking again. The upside is that you'd be
> notified and it wouldn't be emerging mysql.
>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject:
> > Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> > From:
> > Brian Kroth <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
> > Date:
> > Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:15:45 -0500
> > To:
> > gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >
> > To:
> > gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >
> >
> > Joseph Drake wrote:
> >> I think this will result in failed dependencies.
> >>
> >> Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 wrote:
> >>> try
> >>>
> >>> echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
> >
> > Exactly, that's why /etc/portage/package.provided was created. The
> > previous solution was correct. Namely:
> >
> > >> You could try something like:
> > >>
> > >> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
> >
> > "man portage" for more more info.
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September
> >>> 20, 2006 23:20
> >>> To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
> >>>>
> >>> -
> >>>> emerge to automatically install mysql?
> >>>> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
> >>>>
> >>>> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
> >>>>
> >>>> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
> >>>>
> >>> mysql
> >>>> 4.1.x
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You could try something like:
> >>>
> >>> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>
--
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-22 14:24 ` Brian Kroth
2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:43 ` Jörg Vorher
@ 2006-10-01 13:44 ` Jörg Vorher
2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Jörg Vorher @ 2006-10-01 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
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WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Kroth" <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
To: <gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
>
> Maurice E Johnson wrote:
> > But wouldn't an attempt to install an app dependent on mysql
> > potentially succeed eroniously? What I'm trying to see - and
> > education is always a good thing - is that in order to truely block
> > mysql, you would need something a bit more complex than an entree in
> > /etc/portage/package.provided.
> >
> > Something in addition? like:
> >
> > equery --nocolor hasuse mysql|awk '{print ">="$1}' >
> > </etc/portage/package.provided|/etc/portage/package.mask>
> >
> > to avoid the consequences of basically saying that it's there when
> > it isn't?
> >
> > I have read the man page, but it doesn't seem to address the
> > consequenses down the road for this condition.
>
> I don't think it necessarily should. By putting something in
> packages.provided you're telling portage that you've taken care of that
> package manually, so it can assume that the dependency has been
> fulfilled. If at some point down the road your system runs into
> compile or dependency problems you know where to look.
>
> Just to clarify the situation though - you're installing mysql manually,
> and trying to emerge mytop or something else that generally needs mysql
> as a dependency, and you just want it to use your custom built one
> rather than ever emerging portage's stock mysql, correct?
>
> Another option, although probably one that requires more work, would be
> to make an ebuild for your custom built mysql, include it in the local
> overlay and as an added precaution so that you know when a new version
> is out mask all higher versions. Then "emerge <whatever it is that
> needs mysql>" should work just as if it were using the stock mysql.
> Actually you could probably do the second part in conjunction with
> packages.provided rather than creating an ebuild.
>
> The downside is that whenever your dependent package's requirements
> changed you would most likely get errors about mysql being masked, and
> you'd have to do some conf tweaking again. The upside is that you'd be
> notified and it wouldn't be emerging mysql.
>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject:
> > Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> > From:
> > Brian Kroth <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
> > Date:
> > Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:15:45 -0500
> > To:
> > gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >
> > To:
> > gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >
> >
> > Joseph Drake wrote:
> >> I think this will result in failed dependencies.
> >>
> >> Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 wrote:
> >>> try
> >>>
> >>> echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
> >
> > Exactly, that's why /etc/portage/package.provided was created. The
> > previous solution was correct. Namely:
> >
> > >> You could try something like:
> > >>
> > >> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
> >
> > "man portage" for more more info.
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September
> >>> 20, 2006 23:20
> >>> To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
> >>>>
> >>> -
> >>>> emerge to automatically install mysql?
> >>>> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
> >>>>
> >>>> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
> >>>>
> >>>> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
> >>>>
> >>> mysql
> >>>> 4.1.x
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You could try something like:
> >>>
> >>> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>
--
gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 23:34 ` Maurice E Johnson
2006-09-22 14:24 ` Brian Kroth
@ 2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Jörg Vorher @ 2006-10-01 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
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----- Original Message -----
From: Maurice E Johnson
To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
But wouldn't an attempt to install an app dependent on mysql potentially succeed eroniously? What I'm trying to see - and education is always a good thing - is that in order to truely block mysql, you would need something a bit more complex than an entree in /etc/portage/package.provided.
Something in addition? like:
equery --nocolor hasuse mysql|awk '{print ">="$1}' > </etc/portage/package.provided|/etc/portage/package.mask>
to avoid the consequences of basically saying that it's there when it isn't?
I have read the man page, but it doesn't seem to address the consequenses down the road for this condition.
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 23:34 ` Maurice E Johnson
2006-09-22 14:24 ` Brian Kroth
2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
@ 2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
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From: Jörg Vorher @ 2006-10-01 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
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----- Original Message -----
From: Maurice E Johnson
To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
But wouldn't an attempt to install an app dependent on mysql potentially succeed eroniously? What I'm trying to see - and education is always a good thing - is that in order to truely block mysql, you would need something a bit more complex than an entree in /etc/portage/package.provided.
Something in addition? like:
equery --nocolor hasuse mysql|awk '{print ">="$1}' > </etc/portage/package.provided|/etc/portage/package.mask>
to avoid the consequences of basically saying that it's there when it isn't?
I have read the man page, but it doesn't seem to address the consequenses down the road for this condition.
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 20:15 ` Brian Kroth
2006-09-21 23:34 ` Maurice E Johnson
@ 2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Jörg Vorher @ 2006-10-01 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Kroth" <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
To: <gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> Joseph Drake wrote:
> > I think this will result in failed dependencies.
> >
> > Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 wrote:
> >> try
> >>
> >> echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
>
> Exactly, that's why /etc/portage/package.provided was created. The
> previous solution was correct. Namely:
>
> >> You could try something like:
> >>
> >> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
>
> "man portage" for more more info.
>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 23:20
> >> To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> >>
> >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
> >>>
> >> -
> >>
> >>> emerge to automatically install mysql?
> >>> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
> >>>
> >>> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
> >>>
> >>> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
> >>>
> >> mysql
> >>
> >>> 4.1.x
> >>>
> >>
> >> You could try something like:
> >>
> >> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
> >>
> >> --
> >> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
> >>
> >
> >
> --
> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>
--
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-09-21 20:15 ` Brian Kroth
2006-09-21 23:34 ` Maurice E Johnson
2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
@ 2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
2006-10-01 14:34 ` Seemant Kulleen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Jörg Vorher @ 2006-10-01 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Kroth" <bpkroth@wisc.edu>
To: <gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> Joseph Drake wrote:
> > I think this will result in failed dependencies.
> >
> > Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 wrote:
> >> try
> >>
> >> echo "dev-db/mysql" >>/etc/portage/package.mask
>
> Exactly, that's why /etc/portage/package.provided was created. The
> previous solution was correct. Namely:
>
> >> You could try something like:
> >>
> >> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
>
> "man portage" for more more info.
>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Con Tassios [mailto:ct@swin.edu.au]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 23:20
> >> To: gentoo-admin@lists.gentoo.org
> >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
> >>
> >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Easy-Things Info wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> How do I tell gentoo that I don't want - under any circumstances
> >>>
> >> -
> >>
> >>> emerge to automatically install mysql?
> >>> I am using binaries and sources straight from mysql.com.
> >>>
> >>> I used -mysql in my USE in /etc/make.conf but it doesn't work
> >>>
> >>> If I try to emerge -p world it tells me that it will install
> >>>
> >> mysql
> >>
> >>> 4.1.x
> >>>
> >>
> >> You could try something like:
> >>
> >> echo "dev-db/mysql-4" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
> >>
> >> --
> >> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
> >>
> >
> >
> --
> gentoo-admin@gentoo.org mailing list
>
--
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-10-01 13:45 ` Jörg Vorher
@ 2006-10-01 14:34 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-10-01 14:55 ` Mark
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Seemant Kulleen @ 2006-10-01 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 15:45 +0200, Jörg Vorher wrote:
>
>
> WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
>
>
>
> WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
> WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
>
> WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
>
Stop spamming the fucking list already.
--
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Developer, Gentoo Linux
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* Re: [gentoo-admin] Newbie admin - help with mysql
2006-10-01 14:34 ` Seemant Kulleen
@ 2006-10-01 14:55 ` Mark
0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Mark @ 2006-10-01 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-admin
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Another n00b that's not able to unsubscribe, let alone use linux
probably. I wonder how these people sign themselves *up*, as there is
*some* common sense required for both...?
Mark
Seemant Kulleen wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 15:45 +0200, Jörg Vorher wrote:
>
>> WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
>>
>>
>>
>> WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
>> WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
>>
>> WIR MÖCHTEN VON IHNEN KEINE WEITEREN EMAILS ODER WERBUNG ERHALTEN
>>
>>
>
> Stop spamming the fucking list already.
>
>
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