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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New hard drive. Is this normal? It looks like a connect problem.
Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 20:25:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc8598d9-ee0b-0be2-d0d1-0324ef3155db@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <378bb608-5ded-a733-06b3-26f6bc6a26cc@gmail.com>

Howdy,

Same thing just a new drive.  I got a new 20TB drive in, same as last
one in this thread.  This is what I get from it. 


May 29 19:06:52 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: found unknown device (class 0)
May 29 19:07:02 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: softreset failed (1st FIS failed)
May 29 19:07:02 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: found unknown device (class 0)
May 29 19:07:12 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: softreset failed (1st FIS failed)
May 29 19:07:12 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: found unknown device (class 0)
May 29 19:07:17 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: found unknown device (class 0)
May 29 19:07:17 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus
113 SControl 330)
May 29 19:07:17 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: link online but 1 devices
misclassified, retrying
May 29 19:07:17 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: reset failed (errno=-11),
retrying in 30 secs
May 29 19:07:47 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus
113 SControl 330)
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4.00: ATA-11: ST20000NM007D-3DJ103,
SN05, max UDMA/133
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4.00: 39063650304 sectors, multi 16:
LBA48 NCQ (depth 32), AA
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4.00: Features: NCQ-sndrcv
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: ata4.00: configured for UDMA/133
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access    
ATA      ST20000NM007D-3D SN05 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg9
type 0
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sdi] 39063650304 512-byte
logical blocks: (20.0 TB/18.2 TiB)
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sdi] 4096-byte physical blocks
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sdi] Write Protect is off
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sdi] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sdi] Write cache: enabled,
read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sdi] Preferred minimum I/O
size 4096 bytes
May 29 19:07:48 Gentoo-1 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sdi] Attached SCSI
removable disk


And hdparm -I shows this.


root@Gentoo-1 / # hdparm -I dev/sdi

dev/sdi:

ATA device, with non-removable media
        Model Number:       ST20000NM007D-3DJ103                   
        Serial Number:      ZVT3ANGK
        Firmware Revision:  SN05   
        Transport:          Serial, ATA8-AST, SATA 1.0a, SATA II
Extensions, SATA Rev 2.5, SATA Rev 2.6, SATA Rev 3.0
Standards:
        Used: unknown (minor revision code 0xffff)
        Supported: 11 10 9 8 7 6 5
        Likely used: 11
Configuration:
        Logical         max     current
        cylinders       16383   16383
        heads           16      16
        sectors/track   63      63
        --
        CHS current addressable sectors:    16514064
        LBA    user addressable sectors:   268435455
        LBA48  user addressable sectors: 39063650304
        Logical  Sector size:                   512 bytes [ Supported:
512 4096 ]
        Physical Sector size:                  4096 bytes
        Logical Sector-0 offset:                  0 bytes
        device size with M = 1024*1024:    19074048 MBytes
        device size with M = 1000*1000:    20000588 MBytes (20000 GB)
        cache/buffer size  = unknown
        Form Factor: 3.5 inch
        Nominal Media Rotation Rate: 7200
Capabilities:
        LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
        Queue depth: 32
        Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, no device specific minimum
        R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16  Current = 16
        Recommended acoustic management value: 254, current value: 0
        DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
             Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
        PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
             Cycle time: no flow control=120ns  IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
        Enabled Supported:
           *    SMART feature set
                Security Mode feature set
           *    Power Management feature set
           *    Write cache
           *    Look-ahead
           *    WRITE_BUFFER command
           *    READ_BUFFER command
           *    DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
                Power-Up In Standby feature set
           *    SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
                SET_MAX security extension
           *    48-bit Address feature set
           *    Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE
           *    FLUSH_CACHE_EXT
           *    SMART error logging
           *    SMART self-test
           *    Media Card Pass-Through
           *    General Purpose Logging feature set
           *    WRITE_{DMA|MULTIPLE}_FUA_EXT
           *    64-bit World wide name
           *    IDLE_IMMEDIATE with UNLOAD
                Write-Read-Verify feature set
           *    WRITE_UNCORRECTABLE_EXT command
           *    {READ,WRITE}_DMA_EXT_GPL commands
           *    Segmented DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
           *    unknown 119[6]
           *    unknown 119[7]
                unknown 119[8]
                unknown 119[9]
           *    Gen1 signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)
           *    Gen2 signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)
           *    Gen3 signaling speed (6.0Gb/s)
           *    Native Command Queueing (NCQ)
           *    Phy event counters
           *    Idle-Unload when NCQ is active
           *    READ_LOG_DMA_EXT equivalent to READ_LOG_EXT
           *    DMA Setup Auto-Activate optimization
                Device-initiated interface power management
           *    Software settings preservation
                unknown 78[7]
           *    SMART Command Transport (SCT) feature set
           *    SCT Write Same (AC2)
           *    SCT Error Recovery Control (AC3)
           *    SCT Features Control (AC4)
           *    SCT Data Tables (AC5)
                unknown 206[7]
                unknown 206[12] (vendor specific)
                unknown 206[13] (vendor specific)
                unknown 206[14] (vendor specific)
           *    SANITIZE_ANTIFREEZE_LOCK_EXT command
           *    SANITIZE feature set
           *    OVERWRITE_EXT command
           *    All write cache is non-volatile
           *    Extended number of user addressable sectors
<<< SNIP >>>
Checksum: correct
root@Gentoo-1 / #


According to that, it is connected at udma6 which is the fastest.  So
that is good, I guess.  Since both drives is slow to connect, it seems
this is a trend and may just be normal for these drives.  Given I use
these for data that is only put in use a few minutes after booting,
which gives it plenty of time to connect properly, then it isn't a
problem for me.  I just wouldn't want to try to put a OS on the thing
and boot from it. 

Any one else have different thoughts?  See a problem that is a trend, in
a bad way?  Given two different drives has the same slow connect time,
maybe it is normal. 

By the way, I have data on the first 20TB drive and it has worked fine
so far.  I've had to reboot a couple times and by the time the system
comes up, I login, KDE comes up and I get to a Konsole to unlock the
encrypted drives, they are ready.  I'd guess it takes at least three
minutes from power up until I unlock the drives.  This is likely shorter
if I put one of these drives on the NAS box, no GUI on it.  Still, I
give it plenty of time to come up before even ssh'ing into the box much
less unlocking it. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-30  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-05 21:15 [gentoo-user] New hard drive. Is this normal? It looks like a connect problem Dale
2025-05-06 12:12 ` Michael
2025-05-06 12:59   ` Dale
2025-05-06 14:31     ` Michael
2025-05-06 20:51       ` Dale
2025-05-06 23:08         ` Wol
2025-05-07  0:16           ` Dale
2025-05-06 23:30         ` Dale
2025-05-07  8:18           ` Michael
2025-05-07 15:13             ` Dale
2025-05-10 15:53               ` Dale
2025-05-10 18:52                 ` Michael
2025-05-12  8:11                   ` Dale
2025-05-12 11:14                     ` Michael
2025-05-13  6:30                       ` Dale
2025-05-12 22:34             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-05-13  6:05               ` Dale
2025-05-13  8:30               ` Michael
2025-05-30 13:46     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-05-30  1:25 ` Dale [this message]
2025-05-30 10:56   ` Michael
2025-05-30 13:47     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-05-30 15:10       ` Michael
2025-05-30 21:06     ` Dale
2025-05-31  8:21       ` Michael
2025-06-01  2:51         ` Dale
2025-06-01 11:02           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-06-01 12:20             ` Dale

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