From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to undeprecate EGO_SUM
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 13:03:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a19fb9f7b3fa0b3f6b3d06c9dad0e9d63061f3e6.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a66fac0d-2d47-e307-8275-116ade61e052@gentoo.org>
On Mon, 2022-06-13 at 11:30 +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> On 13/06/2022 10.29, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Mon, 2022-06-13 at 09:44 +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> > > Judging from the gentoo-dev@ mailing list discussion [1] about EGO_SUM,
> > > where some voices where in agreement that EGO_SUM has its raison d'être,
> > > while there where no arguments in favor of eventually removing EGO_SUM,
> > > I hereby propose to undeprecate EGO_SUM.
> > >
> > > 1: https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/1a64a8e7694c3ee11cd48a58a95f2faa
> > >
> >
> > "We've been rehashing the discussion until all opposition got tired
> > and stopped replying, then we claim everyone agrees".
>
> I understand this comment so that there was already a discussion about
> deprecating and removing EGO_SUM. I usually try to follow what's going
> on Gentoo and I remember the discussion about introducing dependency
> tarballs. But I apparently have missed the part where EGO_SUM was slated
> for removal. And it appears I am not the only one, at least Ionen also
> wrote "Missed bits and pieces but was never quite sure why this went
> toward full deprecation, just discouraged may have been fair enough, …".
>
> In any case, I am sorry for bringing this discussion up again. But since
> I started rehashing this, no arguments why EGO_SUM should be removed
> have been provided. And so far, I failed to find the old discussions
> where I'd hope to find some rationale behind the deprecation of EGO_SUM. :/
>
I disagree. Robin has made a pretty complete summary in his mail, with
numbers that prove how bad EGO_SUM is/was [1]. While he may have
disagreed with dependency tarballs, he brought pretty clear arguments
how EGO_SUM is even worse. Multiplied by all the Gentoo systems that
won't ever install 95% of Go packages, yet all have to carry their
overhead.
[1]
https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/8e2a4002bfc6258d65dcf725db347cb9
--
Best regards,
Michał Górny
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-13 7:44 [gentoo-dev] Proposal to undeprecate EGO_SUM Florian Schmaus
2022-06-13 7:44 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] go-module.eclass: " Florian Schmaus
2022-06-13 9:49 ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2022-06-13 10:25 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-06-17 15:53 ` William Hubbs
2022-06-13 8:29 ` [gentoo-dev] Proposal to " Michał Górny
2022-06-13 8:49 ` Ulrich Mueller
2022-06-13 9:34 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-06-13 10:26 ` Ulrich Mueller
2022-06-17 16:27 ` William Hubbs
2022-10-12 13:01 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-06-13 9:30 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-06-13 11:03 ` Michał Górny [this message]
2022-06-14 9:37 ` Michał Górny
2022-06-14 10:29 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-06-14 16:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Holger Hoffstätte
2022-06-14 17:03 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-06-15 5:53 ` Michał Górny
2022-06-17 19:04 ` Michał Górny
2022-06-14 17:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Arsen Arsenović
2022-06-26 23:43 ` Zoltan Puskas
2022-06-27 6:09 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2022-06-27 7:14 ` Zoltan Puskas
2022-07-15 21:34 ` William Hubbs
2022-07-16 11:24 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-07-16 11:58 ` Joonas Niilola
2022-07-16 17:51 ` William Hubbs
2022-07-16 18:31 ` Arthur Zamarin
2022-07-16 18:46 ` Robin H. Johnson
2022-07-16 19:35 ` William Hubbs
2022-07-16 20:20 ` Ulrich Mueller
2022-07-17 1:37 ` William Hubbs
2022-09-28 15:28 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-09-28 16:31 ` Ulrich Mueller
2022-09-30 0:36 ` William Hubbs
2022-09-30 14:53 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-09-30 15:48 ` William Hubbs
2022-09-30 19:18 ` Sam James
2022-10-11 10:06 ` [gentoo-dev] RFC: check A's size in go-module.eclass Florian Schmaus
2022-10-11 10:06 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] go-module.eclass: ensure that A is less than 112 KiB Florian Schmaus
2022-10-11 15:26 ` Mike Gilbert
2022-10-11 15:58 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-10-11 15:33 ` [gentoo-dev] RFC: check A's size in go-module.eclass Mike Gilbert
2022-09-30 19:49 ` [gentoo-dev] Proposal to undeprecate EGO_SUM Alec Warner
2022-10-01 0:06 ` William Hubbs
2022-10-01 13:42 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-10-01 16:36 ` Ulrich Mueller
2022-10-01 17:21 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-10-01 20:59 ` William Hubbs
2022-09-30 20:07 ` Arsen Arsenović
2022-09-30 23:49 ` William Hubbs
2022-09-28 21:23 ` John Helmert III
2022-09-30 13:57 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-09-30 14:36 ` Jaco Kroon
2022-09-30 14:53 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-09-30 15:10 ` Jaco Kroon
2022-09-30 15:32 ` Zoltan Puskas
2022-09-30 19:02 ` Georgy Yakovlev
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