From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:27:35 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_mSLdjabAXJDPKkJOp6yL+RmpzUUfD=tNgsf5Q8PWLYww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Joost Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 15, 2011 09:27:06 AM Zac Medico wrote:
> > It should be similar to how sys-apps/v86d is used for uvesafb support.
> > It installs /usr/share/v86d/initramfs and when you configure your
> > kernel, you set CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE="/usr/share/v86d/initramfs" in
> > order to have in included in your kernel image.
>
> Will this be set somewhere globally to the initramfs automatically?
> And doesn't this mean that a new kernel will need to be build just to
> satisfy
> this?
>
> I'm trying to think of how best to avoid users who are not aware to get
> caught
> with non-booting systems.
>
> Wouldn't automatic inclusion into grub.conf be a better approach? Not sure
> if
> grub.conf can handle a "global" setting for initramfs.
>
>
Well, the only way to set a kernel config parameter is to rebuild the
kernel. There might be some way to extract the built-in initramfs (every
kernel has one) and replace it with the new one without rebuilding it, but I
doubt most users would prefer that we mount /boot and start modifying their
kernel images.
Changes to grub.conf will only be properly merged if /boot is mounted, if
grub is installed (don't laugh - I checked and since my system was migrated
so many times I don't actually have the package installed any longer), and
the user actually merges the changes in. Fiddling with grub.conf isn't
exactly risk-free either.
I think something like this is best handled via news.
Note also that depending on your definition of "broken" the separate /usr
situation is already broken. It will probably steadily become more broken
over time, so when it stops booting altogether for any particular user might
happen anytime from a year ago to never.
Rich
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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-15 14:33 [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 15:07 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-15 16:04 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 16:27 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-15 20:03 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:14 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-15 20:37 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-15 20:45 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-09-15 21:24 ` Brian Harring
2011-09-15 20:27 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2011-09-15 21:56 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:31 ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-15 22:05 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:34 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-15 22:13 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 22:27 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-16 6:02 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:56 ` William Hubbs
2011-09-15 22:17 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 18:29 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-15 20:40 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:54 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-15 21:48 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 0:32 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-16 7:25 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 7:29 ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-15 19:31 ` Luca Barbato
2011-09-15 20:33 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 4:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-09-16 13:59 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-25 6:35 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-25 9:53 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-26 1:32 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-26 1:57 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-26 2:27 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-26 4:35 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-26 2:27 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-25 12:53 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-25 23:16 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-09-26 1:37 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-18 5:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2011-09-18 12:38 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-18 12:49 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-18 12:59 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-18 14:27 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-09-18 14:51 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-18 17:26 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-19 8:15 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 8:25 ` Alec Warner
2011-09-19 8:44 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 8:33 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-19 8:57 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 9:10 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-19 10:30 ` Dale
2011-09-19 10:37 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 11:17 ` Arun Raghavan
2011-09-19 23:19 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-20 0:29 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-20 2:08 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-20 2:50 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-20 6:48 ` Fabian Groffen
2011-09-19 17:36 ` Greg KH
2011-09-19 18:00 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-19 21:46 ` Luca Barbato
2011-09-19 22:40 ` Greg KH
2011-09-19 22:57 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-20 3:53 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-19 23:24 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-18 19:27 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-15 19:41 ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-15 21:00 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 22:18 ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-16 8:36 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 18:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-09-17 6:16 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-17 14:10 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-19 8:25 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-17 18:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-18 15:22 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-18 18:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-09-18 18:59 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-19 8:03 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-19 7:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 8:25 ` Michał Górny
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