From: Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EGO_SUM
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 16:47:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEdQ38FppfiBkniSkNj+W0zzpOaWb5hhUyi3Ki_fefh=t5oEjw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7153177d-94fb-95b6-9154-fa1d0864a756@gentoo.org>
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 3:31 PM Andrew Ammerlaan
<andrewammerlaan@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On 26/04/2023 18:12, Matt Turner wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:31 AM Florian Schmaus <flow@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> The discussion would be more productive if someone who is supporting the
> >> EGO_SUM deprecation could rationally summarize the main arguments why we
> >> deprecated EGO_SUM.
> >
> > You're requesting the changes. It's on you to read the previous
> > threads and try to understand. It's not others' responsibilities to
> > justify the status quo to you, but tl;dr is Manifest files grew to
> > insane sizes for golang packages with many dependencies, and the
> > Manifest size is a cost all Gentoo users pay regardless of whether
> > they use the package.
> >
>
> This is a valid point and I think it is clear. What is not clear however
> is why the EGO_SUM method should be dropped entirely instead of keeping
> it as an option for overlays (with an appropriate warning). As I
> remember this is where the discussion got 'stuck' last time.
>
> There are other cases where things are possible but prohibited in
> ::gentoo by policy. E.g. the acct-user eclass allows setting
> ACCT_USER_ID to -1 for dynamic assignment, but we do not allow this in
> ::gentoo. I don't see why we could not do the same for EGO_SUM, keep it
> as an option, while disallowing it in ::gentoo.
I suspect allowing it unrestricted in overlays is fine—which seems to
be the major practical issue that spurred this thread.
Sam suggested a requirement for a maximum Manifest size (presumably
thinking about ::gentoo), and Florian replied:
> Asking to impose an artificial limit is based on the same unfounded
> belief under which EGO_SUM was deprecated in the first place. I am
> worried that if we follow this, then a potential next step is to argue
> about adding packages to ::gentoo.
So I think that's where the disagreement is.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-26 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-17 7:37 [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM Florian Schmaus
2023-04-17 9:28 ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM Anna (cybertailor) Vyalkova
2023-04-27 18:00 ` William Hubbs
2023-04-27 18:18 ` David Seifert
2023-04-24 16:11 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-24 20:28 ` Sam James
2023-04-24 22:52 ` Alexey Zapparov
2023-04-26 15:31 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-26 16:12 ` Matt Turner
2023-04-26 19:31 ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-04-26 19:38 ` Chris Pritchard
2023-04-26 20:47 ` Matt Turner [this message]
2023-04-27 7:58 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-27 9:24 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-04-28 6:59 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-27 12:54 ` Michał Górny
2023-04-27 23:12 ` Pascal Jäger
2023-04-28 0:38 ` Sam James
2023-04-28 4:27 ` Michał Górny
2023-04-28 5:31 ` Sam James
2023-04-28 6:59 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-28 14:34 ` Michał Górny
2023-05-02 19:32 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-02 19:38 ` Sam James
2023-04-29 22:34 ` Robin H. Johnson
2023-04-27 21:16 ` Sam James
2023-05-02 19:32 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-02 19:45 ` Sam James
2023-05-08 7:53 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-08 12:03 ` Michał Górny
2023-05-22 7:14 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-02 20:04 ` Matt Turner
2023-05-08 7:53 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-26 20:51 ` Sam James
2023-05-30 15:52 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-30 16:30 ` Anna (cybertailor) Vyalkova
2023-05-31 5:02 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-05-30 16:35 ` Arthur Zamarin
2023-05-31 6:20 ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-05-31 8:40 ` Ryan Qian
2023-05-31 9:06 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-05-31 6:30 ` pascal.jaeger leimstift.de
2023-06-01 4:00 ` William Hubbs
2023-06-02 8:17 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-06-02 8:31 ` Michał Górny
2023-06-09 10:07 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-06-01 19:55 ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM William Hubbs
2023-06-02 7:13 ` Joonas Niilola
2023-06-02 18:06 ` William Hubbs
2023-06-02 18:42 ` Joonas Niilola
2023-06-09 10:07 ` Florian Schmaus
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