From: Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org>
To: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-project <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Repo mirror & CI: official statement wrt GitHub
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 19:45:18 -0400 [thread overview]
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On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Andreas K. Huettel <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2018, 16:14:48 CEST schrieb Alec Warner:
>
> > They seem to offer docker packages, so we could just nab those and run
> them
> > in containers on hosts. I'm not too keen on doing a bunch of (really
> what I
> > consider busywork) to try to 'get it working on Gentoo.' We already use
> > upstream provided containers and I expect that to continue as upstreams
> > continue to abandon the 'release packages' model and move to 'release
> sets
> > of containers' model.
> >
> > -A
>
> Apart from all the implications that have already been brought up, that's
>
> 1) a public relations nightmare waiting to happen
> (future discussion: "Err, wait, central Gentoo infrastructure runs on an
> Ubuntu-based container? Well, then we switch directly to Ubuntu.")
>
Its unclear what the upstream containers might be based on. CoreOS or
Alpine Linux are both common bases (and CoreOS is ironically a
Gentoo-powered[1] distro using our tree and tools.) I'm not sure people
would switch because of that.
> 2) not particularly nice to our users, who probably want to experiment
> with
> gitlab too.
> (Hey, for years www-apps/bugzilla was maintainer-needed while Gentoo Infra
> was
> running a well-maintained instance. I was always wondering what happened
> there...)
>
Users who want to experiment with gitlab can install docker and docker pull
the images, same as infra.
If users want to do things with ebuilds they can follow the wiki:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GitLab
I'm not yet quite convinced that Infra should be forced to do the latter,
provided the former does not violate the social contract (and that is
perhaps a healthy debate one could have.)
> So I'd suggest we either are convinced that our packaging actually makes
> sense, and use it, or we close shop.
>
I'm not convinced its worthwhile to package gitlab when upstream already
packaged it for us, which is why you don't see me spending time on such
things.
[0] https://github.com/coreos/coreos-overlay
> --
> Andreas K. Hüttel
> dilfridge@gentoo.org
> Gentoo Linux developer
> (council, toolchain, perl, libreoffice, comrel)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-16 23:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-09 7:25 [gentoo-project] Repo mirror & CI: official statement wrt GitHub Michał Górny
2018-06-09 7:50 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-09 7:52 ` Michał Górny
2018-06-09 9:11 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-06-11 12:15 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-06-11 13:28 ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-14 9:47 ` James Le Cuirot
2018-06-14 14:14 ` Alec Warner
2018-06-14 14:25 ` Mauricio Lima Pilla
2018-06-15 0:33 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-06-15 1:14 ` Aaron W. Swenson
2018-06-15 2:16 ` Alec Warner
2018-06-15 7:20 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-06-16 23:55 ` Virgil Dupras
2018-06-17 0:25 ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-16 21:58 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-06-16 23:14 ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-16 23:45 ` Alec Warner [this message]
2018-06-17 1:05 ` Brian Dolbec
2018-06-14 19:55 ` kuzetsa
2018-06-15 0:26 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-06-15 2:27 ` kuzetsa
2018-06-15 11:50 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-06-15 14:55 ` kuzetsa
2018-06-15 15:31 ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-15 16:03 ` kuzetsa
2018-06-15 16:11 ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-15 16:22 ` kuzetsa
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