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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New hard drive. Is this normal? It looks like a connect problem.
Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 21:51:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9566b073-e051-0e4d-a614-f176c164c781@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13774716.uLZWGnKmhe@rogueboard>

Michael wrote:
> On Friday, 30 May 2025 22:06:03 British Summer Time Dale wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>> You can transfer some data from a tmpfs and measure the speed.  If it gets
>>> anywhere near 4.8 Gbit/s (600 MB/s) its a SATA 3.  The delay in the kernel
>>> picking it up at boot may be related to its size, but I have no experience
>>> of such large drives to be able to confirm this.
>> When I started reading your reply, I realized I had that drive in the
>> older external enclosure connected to my main rig.  I'm not sure if it
>> is SATA 3 capable or not.  I need to research the specs on that
>> enclosure.  It works fine for running self tests tho.  Anyway, I
>> connected it to my NAS box.  On it, it reads at speeds that make me
>> think it is SATA 3.  It's around 250MB/sec with hdparm -t which is
>> normal on most all my rigs.
> I corrected my statement above, which referred to the max speed of SATA 3 
> interface rather than the drive itself.  As Frank noted in real life the drive 
> only achieves a fraction of this.  Your 250MB/sec read rate is what you can 
> expect.
>
>
> [snip ...]
>> I'm surprised by the speed of the OS drive tho.  It is a SSD drive. 
>> Anyway, as one can see, some drives are connected at SATA 2 and some at
>> SATA3.  Now I noticed, the 4 drive set is connected to a PCIe card.  The
>> three drive set and the OS drive is connected to the mobo itself.  This
>> makes me wonder, is the mobo ports only SATA 2?  I went and looked at
>> the manual that shows a block diagram and what is what.  Sure enough,
>> the mobo ports are SATA 2 or 3GBs/sec.  Well, that explains that.
> Aha!  Yes, that explains it.
>
>
>> I can't believe that mobo is SATA 2 tho.  I could have sworn it was SATA
>> 3. 
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> I recall mentioning at the start of this thread you should check the MoBo's 
> SATA port spec.  ;-)


One more update.  I did some research on the older external enclosure
that hard drives just slide into, no disassembly to change drives, and
it is indeed a SATA 2 spec enclosure.  Don't get me wrong, I love the
enclosure.  I can swap drives in well under 30 seconds.  It's a nice
enclosure and I wish I had some more of them just maybe SATA 3.  If I
ran up on a deal with a couple more just like I have, I'd buy them, slow
or not.  I like the ease with which I can swap drives.  I mostly use
them for testing and updating a hard drive backup of /root, /etc and my
world file.  I only update those every couple months or so anyway so
speed just isn't a issue. 

So, now I know to expect a slower connect speed with that enclosure. 
It's a Star Tech SAT3510BU2E.  I wish they still made them like this.  I
have found enclosures with multiple drives but singles are hard to find
with a eSATA port. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-01  2:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-05 21:15 [gentoo-user] New hard drive. Is this normal? It looks like a connect problem Dale
2025-05-06 12:12 ` Michael
2025-05-06 12:59   ` Dale
2025-05-06 14:31     ` Michael
2025-05-06 20:51       ` Dale
2025-05-06 23:08         ` Wol
2025-05-07  0:16           ` Dale
2025-05-06 23:30         ` Dale
2025-05-07  8:18           ` Michael
2025-05-07 15:13             ` Dale
2025-05-10 15:53               ` Dale
2025-05-10 18:52                 ` Michael
2025-05-12  8:11                   ` Dale
2025-05-12 11:14                     ` Michael
2025-05-13  6:30                       ` Dale
2025-05-12 22:34             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-05-13  6:05               ` Dale
2025-05-13  8:30               ` Michael
2025-05-30 13:46     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-05-30  1:25 ` Dale
2025-05-30 10:56   ` Michael
2025-05-30 13:47     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-05-30 15:10       ` Michael
2025-05-30 21:06     ` Dale
2025-05-31  8:21       ` Michael
2025-06-01  2:51         ` Dale [this message]
2025-06-01 11:02           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-06-01 12:20             ` Dale

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