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From: "Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EGO_SUM
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 11:06:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86a5xk982o.fsf@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c1ade47-0fc2-c03d-0667-2a38b2e1c1c1@gentoo.org>

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Andrew Ammerlaan <andrewammerlaan@gentoo.org> writes:

> On 30/05/2023 18:35, Arthur Zamarin wrote:
>> My solution is as such:
>> 1. Undeprecate EGO_SUM in eclass
>> 2. Forbid it's usage in ::gentoo (done by pkgcheck, error level, will
>> fail CI and as such we can see the misuse). Overlays are allowed.
>> 3. Maintainer starts talks with upstreams to add release workflow to
>> create vendored source tarball, in hopes of it succeeding. "Start early,
>> to future profit". I see this flow similar to the "always try to
>> upstream patches".
>> 4. Until upstream adds it, in ::gentoo use vendor tarballs.
>> I also think many devs agree with this solution, but I can't talk for
>> them, so I'll be happy agreeing devs can at least reply shortly their
>> agreement or disagreement.
>
> I fully agree with Arthur

+1

> With regards to proxy-maintained packages: The proxy can generate and upload
> the vendor tarball for the proxied, this is not that much extra work.

This expands the required trust in proxy maintainers, in a way which is
unusually easy to double check.

We can automate generating vendor tarballs (or more).  If implemented
such that tarballs are reproducible, it should be easy to verify by
running the same procedure from a different host and verifying.

There would still be a slight cost to an initial 'whitelist package'
step or such, but IMO, that's not a very large cost.  (and, also,
possibly some other mechanism could be implemented)

> Best regards,
> Andrew


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Arsen Arsenović

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-31  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-17  7:37 [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM Florian Schmaus
2023-04-17  9:28 ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM Anna (cybertailor) Vyalkova
2023-04-27 18:00   ` William Hubbs
2023-04-27 18:18     ` David Seifert
2023-04-24 16:11 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-24 20:28   ` Sam James
2023-04-24 22:52     ` Alexey Zapparov
2023-04-26 15:31     ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-26 16:12       ` Matt Turner
2023-04-26 19:31         ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-04-26 19:38           ` Chris Pritchard
2023-04-26 20:47           ` Matt Turner
2023-04-27  7:58         ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-27  9:24           ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-04-28  6:59             ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-27 12:54           ` Michał Górny
2023-04-27 23:12             ` Pascal Jäger
2023-04-28  0:38               ` Sam James
2023-04-28  4:27                 ` Michał Górny
2023-04-28  5:31                   ` Sam James
2023-04-28  6:59             ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-28 14:34               ` Michał Górny
2023-05-02 19:32                 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-02 19:38                   ` Sam James
2023-04-29 22:34               ` Robin H. Johnson
2023-04-27 21:16           ` Sam James
2023-05-02 19:32             ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-02 19:45               ` Sam James
2023-05-08  7:53                 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-08 12:03                   ` Michał Górny
2023-05-22  7:14                     ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-02 20:04               ` Matt Turner
2023-05-08  7:53                 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-26 20:51       ` Sam James
2023-05-30 15:52   ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-30 16:30     ` Anna (cybertailor) Vyalkova
2023-05-31  5:02       ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-05-30 16:35     ` Arthur Zamarin
2023-05-31  6:20       ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-05-31  8:40         ` Ryan Qian
2023-05-31  9:06         ` Arsen Arsenović [this message]
2023-05-31  6:30       ` pascal.jaeger leimstift.de
2023-06-01  4:00         ` William Hubbs
2023-06-02  8:17       ` Florian Schmaus
2023-06-02  8:31         ` Michał Górny
2023-06-09 10:07           ` Florian Schmaus
2023-06-01 19:55 ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM William Hubbs
2023-06-02  7:13   ` Joonas Niilola
2023-06-02 18:06     ` William Hubbs
2023-06-02 18:42       ` Joonas Niilola
2023-06-09 10:07   ` Florian Schmaus

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