From: Eric Sammer <esammer@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-desktop-research@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] Gentoo installer project
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:33:05 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40152521.4050803@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200401261310.20816.danarmak@gentoo.org>
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Dan Armak wrote:
> From the linked file:
> - The same flexibility as the current manual process with NO loss of
> any of the options (custom partitioning, file system type selection,
> individual package selections, etc.). If any option, no matter how
> seemingly esoteric, is removed, the community will (rightfully)
> reject the project in its entirety.
>
> AFAICS, the only truly encompassing solution would be to provide an interface
> of sorts to a console. The user could view and edit commands generated by the
> installer, see their raw output, pause operation and insert commands of his
> own, etc.
While I believe that being able to pause between steps and drop to a
shell is a useful feature (especially for those learning), I don't think
it's absolutely required. What I mean by same flexibility is to allow
for individual package selection, file system type selection, custom
partitioning schemes, and other things we get to do during the current
installs. Some of the installers I've used in the past (thinking of YaST
from SuSE) have allowed for such things without being overly cumbersome
to the user. The console installer could, for instance, drop the user
into cfdisk for custom partitioning (just an example) while the gtk
client can use a gtk table with very little custom control work to do
the same.
Someone (klieber, maybe) suggested a console view to display what hte
installer was actually doing which might not be a bad idea. The Mac OS X
installer has a "view log" menu item that displays just about
everything it's doing down to detected disks and the like. I think
something like this might be good. The console install can do the same
by supplying an option to switch to a log view. It's all pretty open ended.
> If he wanted to use something not yet provided by the installer,
> he'd just tell it to skip a step and do it manually.
That's also interesting.
> What do you think?
I think it raises some good points and ideas. A console view type thing
might be good for education and interjecting commands during phases of
installation.
Thanks for your comments.
--
Eric Sammer
Gentoo Linux
http://www.gentoo.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-01-26 14:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-01-26 5:35 [gentoo-desktop-research] Gentoo installer project Eric Sammer
2004-01-26 9:57 ` dams
2004-01-26 10:58 ` Dan Armak
2004-01-26 14:16 ` Eric Sammer
2004-01-26 20:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-26 13:37 ` Eric Sammer
2004-01-26 20:11 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-26 20:19 ` Eric Sammer
2004-01-26 20:20 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-01-28 11:55 ` dams
2004-01-26 11:10 ` Dan Armak
2004-01-26 14:33 ` Eric Sammer [this message]
2004-01-26 17:48 ` Dan Armak
2004-01-26 20:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-26 20:21 ` Eric Sammer
2004-01-26 20:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-26 20:22 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-01-26 20:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-26 20:22 ` foser
2004-01-26 20:25 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-01-26 20:37 ` Eric Sammer
2004-01-26 22:41 ` Dan Armak
2004-01-27 0:05 ` Scott Koch
2004-01-27 6:07 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
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