From: Florian Schmaus <flow@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
Cc: Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org>, Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>,
council@gentoo.org, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EGO_SUM
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 08:59:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <398aa54d-1138-a28d-00fd-a6f6faa16b0c@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce7d46c35deba44d539d6176eb2f2b842da04f5d.camel@gentoo.org>
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On 27/04/2023 14.54, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 09:58 +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
>> Disk space is cheap.
>
> No, it's not. Gentoo supports more hardware than your average PC with
> beefy hard drive and/or possibility of installing one. Let's not forget
> that you need a ::gentoo checkout even on a system running purely
> on binary packages.
You are right. Gentoo supports a broad range of hardware in many
dimensions, e.g., architecture, release date, and composition.
You seem to suggest that are Gentoo systems that can not handle the
additional disk space consumption of EGO_SUM Go-packages?
I can not imagine systems that are able to deal with the ~500 MiB
::gentoo repository, but would break if the same repository would
contain 100 additional Go-packages with 200 KiB each.
Even under a "worst-case" assumption, where we would have 256
Go-packages with each having a 1 MiB package-directory size, any system
that can handle the current state of ::gentoo should be able to take the
additional 256 MiB (+ metadata).
>> Network traffic, while also being cheap, may be more of an issue.
>
> Again, you're making assumption based on living in a well-developed area
> and discriminating against users who have shoddy Internet connectivity.
>
> That said, this all was discussed in the past. I really wish you would
> humble down and try to find a solution that would work for everyone
> instead of showing arrogance and lack of concern for users outside your
> "majority" view of Gentoo.
I am sorry. I will work on my humbleness.
I am only pursuing the modest request to legitimize any decision
regarding EGO_SUM by a democratic vote.
As far as I can tell, there was never a democratic vote regarding
EGO_SUM. But please correct me if I am wrong.
And I never said that I believe in representing the majority's opinion.
That said, I prefer to have this voted on by an all-developer vote than
a council vote. Then we would know what the majority voted for. Is that
possible?
- Flow
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-17 7:37 [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM Florian Schmaus
2023-04-17 9:28 ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM Anna (cybertailor) Vyalkova
2023-04-27 18:00 ` William Hubbs
2023-04-27 18:18 ` David Seifert
2023-04-24 16:11 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-24 20:28 ` Sam James
2023-04-24 22:52 ` Alexey Zapparov
2023-04-26 15:31 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-26 16:12 ` Matt Turner
2023-04-26 19:31 ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-04-26 19:38 ` Chris Pritchard
2023-04-26 20:47 ` Matt Turner
2023-04-27 7:58 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-27 9:24 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-04-28 6:59 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-27 12:54 ` Michał Górny
2023-04-27 23:12 ` Pascal Jäger
2023-04-28 0:38 ` Sam James
2023-04-28 4:27 ` Michał Górny
2023-04-28 5:31 ` Sam James
2023-04-28 6:59 ` Florian Schmaus [this message]
2023-04-28 14:34 ` Michał Górny
2023-05-02 19:32 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-02 19:38 ` Sam James
2023-04-29 22:34 ` Robin H. Johnson
2023-04-27 21:16 ` Sam James
2023-05-02 19:32 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-02 19:45 ` Sam James
2023-05-08 7:53 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-08 12:03 ` Michał Górny
2023-05-22 7:14 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-02 20:04 ` Matt Turner
2023-05-08 7:53 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-04-26 20:51 ` Sam James
2023-05-30 15:52 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-05-30 16:30 ` Anna (cybertailor) Vyalkova
2023-05-31 5:02 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-05-30 16:35 ` Arthur Zamarin
2023-05-31 6:20 ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-05-31 8:40 ` Ryan Qian
2023-05-31 9:06 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-05-31 6:30 ` pascal.jaeger leimstift.de
2023-06-01 4:00 ` William Hubbs
2023-06-02 8:17 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-06-02 8:31 ` Michał Górny
2023-06-09 10:07 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-06-01 19:55 ` [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM William Hubbs
2023-06-02 7:13 ` Joonas Niilola
2023-06-02 18:06 ` William Hubbs
2023-06-02 18:42 ` Joonas Niilola
2023-06-09 10:07 ` Florian Schmaus
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