From: Aaron Bauman <bman@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trustee nomination: Aaron Bauman (bman)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:08:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180717220839.GC10507@monkey> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_kNbi-yF+aQtBoJd37RXn+tQgJe+C3-gvseYA7XmrctiA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 05:19:30PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:59 PM Aaron Bauman <bman@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> > Additionally, the new by-laws would *legally* hold trustees accountable
> > for failure in due diligence. Of course, that will probably slim down
> > the pool of available individuals willing to run for the seats.
> > Conversely, it will stop people just keeping seats warm.
>
> That sounds nice in theory, but unless you're willing to pay a
> professional board the only people you're going to get manning the
> ship are those too incompetent to realize what they're signing up for.
>
> And considering that we can't really even fully man the current
> Foundation, how do we think that driving off volunteers is going to
> improve things?
>
Is this meant to be rhetorical? I said it was a downfall already.
> I'm also not really sure to what degree bylaws could actually create
> more liability for board members when New Mexico law tries to minimize
> this sort of liability.
>
It obviously cannot make the law more stringent, but by removing "limiting
liability" section it can at least enforce the minimum. Also, NM has nothing to
do with my proposal. Indiana does.
> The Foundation is really a product of the community. If anybody
> actually cared that much about properly running a non-profit then we'd
> have enough volunteers to do the work, and we'd have a good selection
> of candidates for the board so that voting can be used to hold people
> to account. If we have incompetent board members I think that says
> more about the community than the individuals trying to do something
> to make things better.
>
> Now, there are certainly professionals who could do the job well and
> who would probably be willing to do so under any reasonable liability
> requirements. There are law firms that even specialize in these sorts
> of things. However, you're not going to be able to just give them
> Gentoo T-shirts as their sole compensation.
>
No, but have you considered the rates for minimal hours quarterly,
annually, as-needed? It is minor. I have mentioned this already.
> I think we have to acknowledge that we as a community don't really
> care that much to keep a non-profit running, and honestly I'm not sure
> I can think of a reason why we really should care. I think we're best
> served by minimizing our dependence on spending money in the first
> place, and if we must do it just use an umbrella that specializes in
> such things.
>
Are you speaking for the community here? Or is it the lack of action by
those elected? We could try and find reasons for everything.
It really isn't hard to spend money and account for it. Please don't
make it seem like it is moving a mountain.
> --
> Rich
>
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Cheers,
Aaron
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-12 20:18 [gentoo-nfp] Trustee nomination: Aaron Bauman (bman) Michał Górny
2018-07-12 20:34 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-16 21:21 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-17 18:01 ` Roy Bamford
2018-07-17 18:18 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-18 19:34 ` Roy Bamford
2018-07-18 19:58 ` Rich Freeman
2018-07-18 20:25 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-18 20:43 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-17 18:21 ` Rich Freeman
2018-07-17 19:04 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-17 19:15 ` Rich Freeman
2018-07-17 19:29 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-17 20:43 ` Alec Warner
2018-07-17 20:59 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-17 21:16 ` Alec Warner
2018-07-17 21:42 ` Rich Freeman
2018-07-17 22:03 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-17 22:15 ` Alec Warner
2018-07-17 22:50 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-07-17 21:19 ` Rich Freeman
2018-07-17 22:08 ` Aaron Bauman [this message]
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