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From: Florian Schmaus <flow@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, Arthur Zamarin <arthurzam@gentoo.org>
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Arch Status and Future Plans
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:38:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a30daaac-d1c5-46ca-b1f0-63db08a8d7de@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75654daa-c5fc-45c8-a104-fae43b9ca490@gentoo.org>


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Hi Arthur,

thanks for taking the time to write this mail.

On 25/06/2024 19.33, Arthur Zamarin wrote:
> ======== x86 ========
> 
> Stable 32-bit arch. I'll be honest, I don't believe at all this should
> be stable arch anymore.

I have the impression as well. The time to drop stable keywords for x86 
probably has come. But I always wonder if there is a x86 use-case we are 
not aware of. Therefore, if there is a group of x86 Gentoo users out 
there, then they should speak now and ideally elaborate a bit on their 
use case.


> ======== hppa ========
> 
> Sigh. Stable 64-bit arch. Out main Gentoo devbox died, and the second
> one is always stuck compiling gcc for stage3 (a compilation takes 7
> days). Here we have a fight in Arch Team. I prefer to destable it, Sam
> prefers to stable it. This one is tough.

It's not a fight, just a disagreement, or is it? ;)

Probably time would be better invested in other architectures. However, 
I remember sam saying that he has a special interested in hppa and there 
is nothing better than working on stuff that you care about. So maybe 
just give stable hppa a try and re-evaluate the situation in a year or so?


> ======== riscv ========
> 
> Dev arch. I don't have much info on it, but I heard some mess with
> riscv32 and riscv64, so maybe time to split it? I leave it to riscv arch
> team, which works quite well, but I'll be happy to open discussion for it.

IMHO should be split into 32- and 64-bit keywords. Ideally we would also 
consider renaming the 'riscv' keyword to 'riscv64', but maybe this ship 
has sailed?

What about (64-bit) RISC-V becoming stable? Not sure if they time for it 
has already come, but it certainly will come. I might gain access to a 
64-core RISC-V system (Milk-V Pioneer), so I could probably help with 
riscv stabilization.

- Flow



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-26  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-25 17:33 [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans Arthur Zamarin
2024-06-25 21:40 ` matoro
2024-06-25 22:55 ` James Le Cuirot
2024-06-26  0:06 ` Notion of stable depgraph vs stable keywords (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans) Sam James
2024-06-28  4:17   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Notion of stable depgraph vs stable keywords (Re: " Duncan
2024-06-28  5:16     ` Sam James
2024-06-26  0:14 ` Misc arch plans (Re: [gentoo-dev] " Sam James
2024-06-26 20:29   ` ia64, was: " Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-26 20:45     ` matoro
2024-06-26  0:17 ` On the value (or not?) of stable keywords " Sam James
2024-06-26  0:19 ` time64 & LFS for 32-bit arches " Sam James
2024-06-26  0:20 ` x86 FP issues " Sam James
2024-06-28  5:20   ` Michał Górny
2024-06-26  7:38 ` Florian Schmaus [this message]
2024-06-26  8:29   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Arch Status and Future Plans Christian Bricart
2024-06-26 20:44   ` Immolo
2024-06-26 19:47 ` nomenclature, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] " Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-26 20:18 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-26 20:24 ` riscv, was: " Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-26 21:08 ` 32bit vs 64bit, " Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-28 16:12 ` splitting keywords, " Andreas K. Huettel

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