From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
To: peter@stuge.se
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 23:13:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131115231340.2ecfa806@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131115215706.11146.qmail@stuge.se>
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:57:06 +0100
Peter Stuge <peter@stuge.se> wrote:
> Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > I'm not sure if making broken (or experimental) things more easily
> > available or a suggestion would be a good idea; people already have
> > enough trouble as it is, adding more doesn't seem to be the right
> > way.
>
> It's not about broken/experimental, it's about the logical
> consequences of an explicit action taken by the user.
>
> The user must get feedback based on what they said that they wanted
> to do, not based on what is experimental.
>
> Mentioning that something is experimental is an optional bonus, but
> assuming that the user already knows that this is the case is OK too.
The * in the USE flag list marks this.
> portage should say, with as similar wording as possible:
>
> "If you want to emerge libXt with those USE flags then you'll also
> have to set those same USE flags for libYt and libZt because libXt
> DEPENDs on them."
>
> Bonus points:
>
> "Would you like me to set those USE flags for libYt and libZt for
> you? [Y/n]"
Which part of this warns the user that the user is about to run into
something broken / experimental? We need to add that too, because it is
not clear from the output that you suggest. And if we add that as well,
it gets to be quite long; how would we condense that?
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With kind regards,
Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer
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2013-11-13 10:28 [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 11:39 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 13:25 ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 13:37 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 14:00 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-13 14:55 ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 15:16 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 18:56 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-11-13 20:21 ` James Potts
2013-11-13 21:22 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-17 10:20 ` Sergey Popov
2013-11-13 13:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:04 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2013-11-13 15:02 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 15:58 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 23:49 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 5:13 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 12:03 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:13 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:30 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:45 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 19:07 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-14 19:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-14 23:40 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 17:51 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 23:38 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:21 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 12:32 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:57 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 15:12 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 16:38 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 17:32 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 6:53 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-15 7:13 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-11-15 11:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-15 14:30 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 15:30 ` Duncan
2013-11-15 12:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Lauer
2013-11-15 14:27 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 13:33 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 22:39 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 23:06 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-16 8:22 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-11-16 10:57 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-17 16:09 ` hasufell
2013-11-17 16:35 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 16:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-16 12:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-16 12:46 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-16 20:24 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 21:52 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 0:53 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 22:52 ` Duncan
2013-11-13 15:23 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 15:41 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-11-14 0:11 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 15:42 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-13 16:05 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:05 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-11-13 15:44 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-13 16:52 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:03 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 17:49 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 18:24 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 18:50 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 4:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matt Turner
2013-11-15 5:23 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-15 15:54 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 16:05 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 20:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-15 20:22 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-16 12:46 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 17:04 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 17:15 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:46 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:32 ` hasufell
2013-11-17 20:16 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 17:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 19:10 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:57 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 18:56 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-17 19:18 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:27 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 19:51 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 21:41 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:50 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:58 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:13 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 18:18 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 19:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:31 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 19:36 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:00 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:10 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 20:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:25 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:53 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:09 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 21:27 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:21 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 21:38 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:45 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 22:08 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:57 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:13 ` Tom Wijsman [this message]
2013-11-15 22:26 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:58 ` Tom Wijsman
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